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Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
October 2003 Edition
"No proof of evolution = proof of God? What do you
think?" "This is blatenly false. The fossil record is as
complete today as it's goning to get... No 'new' fossil discoveries are
going to fill in the plain gaps that exist." "Problem 1 with evolution, never been a mid evolution
critter found. Problem 2 with evolution, if a species mutated into another
species in ONE step (to agree with the fossil records) then TWO had to
mutate at the same time in the same location else the mutation would die
out in one lifespan. Problem 3 with evolution, assuming the earth is 3
billion years old, that ain't long enough assuming 2 mutations at a time
to produce the current (let alone exinct) critters from one primordial
protoplasmic ooze. Problem 4 with evolution, Third LAW of Thermodynamics -
object move towards chaos, not greater structure. BTW, problem 4 makes the
theory invalid by itself." "Honestly the first thought that came into my mind is
that I have to be raptured with clothes on if it looks like this. I hope
the good Lord surrounds us with a 'mist' of sorts to blur out our details
if we are raptured without clothes as some have suggested will
happen." "A great percentage of the rock/rap/hip hop musicians
of the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's are highly influenced by this
occult, black magician [Aleister
Crowley]. And sadly enough, it is often not even by their own choice -
the satanic influence is something that is programmed into the artist's
mind by the 'Illuminati' to serve a specific goal." *** 'WHO was a Traitor?!' Award *** "Everyone knows the 'Great Depression' was
purposively created by the money trust to institute these communistic
[welfare] programs. I don't love social security - exactly the opposite, I
think it is sinful and theft - extreme wickedness... I consider Franklin
Roosevelt as a Traitor with a capital T. He will go down in history with
Benedict Arnold, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D Roosevelt as the three
largest and most notorius." [Replying to 'We need to extend Social Security to the
rest of society'] "I consider it a heinous sin and idolatry -
prohibited by God under Molech worship. It is a capital crime to be
involved in this and pass ones children before Molech (the King)." "Darwin was the biggest a liar in the whole world and
now he rest not in pease but all bones has catched fire and I can hear a
voice:the fat is in the fire. Biggest lier is gone." "As for budda´s life? What he has given to God to
save the his slaves whom he is cheat as if a women cheat his husband?
Buddha tryed by wizdom and many kaind of docktrine to bay a place from
heaven but the hell gates waiting and slaves follow buddha to the
hell." "Darwin and his followers nowadays are in falling
love with apes. But the can´t marry no apes no gorilla therefore they
feel pain and lust ofcourse and kill itself very often." "My an opinion is that your grammar is diffrend but
drink some milk and then you can give to speak with me or without me.
Sinners can´t feel love but hate moving your hearts and dig you the
deep." "What I mean by that becouse I spoke a bit enicmatic.
I did explained as I should to do it. The sinners can´t feel and they
haven´t love of God for sinners living like death..." "Einstein said that time is relative. Relative to the
gravity. So i think this is why secular scientists are misled, if there
were immense gravity during the creation, then it seems millions of years
to scientists, but it is not." "Now, for the abortion issue. This may sound a little
apathetic, but doesn't a woman forsake her right to give up her right of
choice as soon as she has sex for pleasure in a reckless manner." "the government could make abortion costs/fees
substantially higher... the aim that with prices being that much higher,
the penalty for conceiving an unexpected child would be greater in the
people's minds and thus the abortion rates, prehaps the promiscuity levels
also, would drop." "coathangers [would be used by poor people then]? i
dont think so, maybe a handful of stupid women." "now, i'm going to ask something that may be a little
sadistic, but would this bloody [and extremely traumatic] slaughter of the
fetus via ....coathanger...be a suitable punishment [to the woman] for
going along with the abortion for obviously poor reasons... i guess what
i'm getting at here is if a woman is heartless and, yes, stupid enough to
do such an aweful, do they get what they deserve?" *** 'Thanks for the Sig Line!' Prize *** "I tend to look on Catholicism as a bastardization of
Christianity." "Not beleiving in anything [religious] means you
don't believe in humanity. Love, pleasure, hate, and pain are all
meaningless. Just mere electronic stimuli in your brain." "To say human life is meaningless yet we should still
have emotions is pathetic. An atheist states 'god is meaningless and just
made up in your head'. Yet he refuses to state 'love and human good are
meaningless and just made up in your head'. What he fails to realize, is
that they're the exact same thing." "The biggest mistake atheist make is that they take
there opinions to be so called 'truths'... Also, as I was saying before,
in atheism, human emotions and thoughts are meaningless... If religion is
an opiate, than atheism is flat out stupidity." "How can you prove there is no God? Aethiests always
ask believers how can we prove there is a God... everyone is entitled to
their own opinion, and to their on beliefs, all im asking is how you back
up your beliefs?" "it states that we evolved in to what we are known to
day (by scientist) as Homo sapiens sapiens and all the life forms before
it have become extinct due to evolution, yet we are still able to see
monkeys walking around to day in jungles, should they not be
extinct?" "... all these theory skulls of evolution are based
upon the shape of the head and its brain size. they has been no link yet
between the DNA of thee [fossilized] skulls and us." "... the scientists that are working on the case of
theory of evolution thou they believe it they still have not been able to
prove it enough to take it to court and win..." "... and so we could say children are being
brainwashed with atheistic [evolutionary] ideas, which has only been going
on from since the 18th century." "No bugger saw the man/ape thing that Darwin talked
about but people believe in that. And I find it hard to believe that ages
ago a bunch of monkeys thought 'I know we'll sttand up straight
today'" "... is it really worth it to chance the fact that
god doesn't exist because if he does you will have eternal punishment?? I
just don't totally understand 'humanist' and/or 'atheist'. " "... seeing that so many people don't believe in God
just makes it more believable that Gods Word(The Bible) is true because
man himself has altered your beliefs so that you don't believe in
God." "By the way guys the differences between Catholicism
and Chirstianity are not big at all." [Emphasis added] *** Brainwashing Success Story of the Month *** "... why think so much when the answers are in front
of you?" ""My pastor recently stated 'atheist are a dying
breed, but everyday there are more and more agnostics'... This is becuase
you have to acknowledge something to be able to deny its existence and how
can you acknowledge something that you believe does not exist." "... I can argue for both sides of atheist or
christians in a debate because I'm not sure if I more believe in a god or
I believe in the fact that I don't want to die and just not exist." "And yes. The more people believe in something, the
much more likely it is true or on a path to being true... think of how
many things in life we take as true just because people tell us... Who
your mother and father are, where Japan is... We do this everyday and it
is a valid reason for believing in something." "And how did you learn Pluto exists? or King Tut?
Books, other people? Gee, sounds a lot like religion to me... Don't be an
idiot. While I give specific examples, you give your own personal beliefs.
Everything I listed can be proven to exist? It's a common philosophical
fact that the only thing you can prove exist is yourself." "Oh please. I'm not familiar enough with Descartes to
know that was from him. Besides, thats like saying someone stole the idea
of being nice to each other from Jesus. It's a common philosophy." "The only reason you believe the things I listed
exist are because other people tell you to believe them. But as stated,
the second the issue of religion comes up. Your bigotry denies your
ability to an ability to believe..." "As an atheist, it is impossible to prove to you even
the possibility that God exist. Your mind is predetermined before evidence
is given to you. You'd make a horrible legal judge... You dismiss the
evidence because you already have your mind set its fake. " "The ACLU is the poison that will ultimately abolish
AMERICA as we know it." [On a looming crisis in medicine] "Face it guys!!
Unless the rapture occurs soon, you will not get out of this world alive.
Medicine never cures anyone.......they eventually die anyway!!" "Genesis is literally true, every word of it... A lot
of the 'evidence' used against it by atheists is actually twisted and
taken out of context." "The fossil record is actually very strong evidence
in favor of creation and against evolution. Many fossils are the result of
creatures that perished suddenly in Noah's Flood, for example." "Plenty of irrefutable evidence of a literal creation
there [at AnswersInGenesis], IMO." "We have to realize that in almost NO cases are
Evolutionist leaders out to reach truth. They are rather out to avoid
truth. The notion that those people are truly scientific is about as
unlikely a possibility as will ever be reached. What we should remember is
that Evolutionists are not interested in science – nearly as much as
they are interested in convincing You – that they are “scientific”.
The aura of being “scientific” is what is important to them." "I am not talking about the average pro-evolution
professor. They are smug and happy that they worship at the altar of
science. I am talking about those who founded Evolution. Most of them
founded it as an anti-thesis to Christianity. Many of them were in fact
occultists..." "They know that their own theories are being
disproven, so each time this happens, they bring out a new theory. At one
time or another, we have been descendants of apes, chimpanzees, flies,
dinosaurs, fish, birds, ants, you name it – they’ve said it." "If you really want to have a laugh, just go into a
natural science museum, and wait to join a group tour. Then start asking
about each fossil... watch them go ballistic. They don’t know how to
handle it. They are totally unprepared for original thinking or questions
about their evolutionary models." "Supposedly LUCY was a new species, an adaptation,
but people started pointing out that Lucy looked suprisingly and
coincidentally like the skeleton of a Chimpanzee. The original discoverer
of “Lucy” then went and did what all good evolutionists do: He changed
the Evidence: HE Took a SAW and actually sawed the pelvic bone of Lucy, so
that it would alter the bone structure and give Lucy the ability to stand.
Well, there you go ---> That’s an evolutionary “scientist” for
you." "Don’t be deceived. Those guys are just trying to
con you in order to convert you. Then once they have you hooked on
defending the undefendable, they count on your pride and unwillingness to
admit error – as the motive by which you would continue to advocate
their views." "Rather than admit that they are wrong, and that the
evidence is not in favor of evolution, the converts don’t want to admit
that they were conned. So they perpetuate the myths that got them hooked,
even when they know that the evidence no longer supports those
conclusions... Genesis is true, and evolutionists are simply wishful
thinkers." "The Bible says the Earth was Flooded, and
Evolutionists are saying that the Earth had a number of regional floods.
(in other words, it was global, they just don’t want to admit it)" "I would not go expecting any atheists to give you
any agreement on almost any of these... they would have to admit too much,
to having been conned. Most of them have trouble accepting this. Most of
them have had 1000 hours Per Year of Public School indoctrination." "Dont get confused between Seismology and Evolution.
At some point, all of the ancient fields fall back on modern dating
methods, which suggest the earth is much younger. (they just don’t often
say that until much later in the courses)." "Read closely, it's a THEORY. This does not mean that
it is true. Tell them that if they believe it so much, why don't they
merely make it a law? There should be no relevant reasons for that." "We do not forget that the Evolutionist leaders were
arrogant fools who were deliberately trying to dethrone God. Marx wanted
to dedicate his Das Kapital to Charles Darwin. But Darwin talked him out
of it because he was afraid it would derails his plan to mislead
others." "We do forget that the title of Darwin’s book was
“the origin of species – FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE RACES”. Charles
Darwin and most of the evolutionists were “supremacists”, and they
were dedicated to proving that other races were inferior." 2. The guy didn't even get the facts straight when slandering a dead scientist. The work was known as 'On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life.' "These are the same people who gave us Margaret
Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. Her goal was to kill as many
black and minority children as possible. Don’t take my word for it –
read her own works." "Evolutionist leaders today mention the absolute
minimum about these things in the most reductionist of terms. If the truth
were known, the abandonment of evolution would be much greater." "The truth is that Christians know all too well of
the danger of hell. Its one of the main reasons I became a Christian; for
the fear of going to hell (call me selfish)." "God created Time, not man!... the traditional
irrational madness that man follows blindly [time zones] in keeping
international time as we... are traeted to the 'new year celebrations' in
Australia by satellite news without... concern at the obvious paradox
billions are able to swallow and ignore that supposedly it is not 'new
year' here... Imagine God creating space and time... was time different at
different places, was there a sphere of different times where the earth
was to be? It is not so hard to see that there was not and thus that time
was the same everywhere... of course time is not different in different
places, one cannot travel forwards and backwards in time just by stepping
from side to side..." "So does this lie matter ?... obviously it does if
one is trying to keep holy days as defined by God rather than mankind's
mockeries of them ! To many perople holy sabbath is important, but they do
not even realise that man's false timekeeping prevents them from keeping
the true sabbath because they have grown used to the false tradition ...
this is one very subtle deceit..." "But for those very many who keep false religious
festivals kept by the christian churches in defiance of bible evidence
that they are not holy, there has to be a meaning, you are being deceived
by conventions and pagan traditions that you are celebrating God's holy
times when you clearly are not." "It [quantum mechanics] actually does mean that the
Universe is an 'illusion'. Matter is nothing but a figment of our
conscience. All we perceive is information fed directly into our
'soul'." "Each photon has a 10% chance of passing through the
mirror instead of coming back to your eyes. We can't know in advance WHICH
photon will reflect until it actually does. NOTHING IS CONSTANT ABOUT
MATTER. That's what science is finding out. The laws of Newton are gone.
This is Einstein's Relativity now." "God knits the baby together in the females womb at
conception, any birth illnesses or defects come after this. God has never
made an inperfect baby. Therefore I believe is no possible situation when
abortion is a possible choice." "You can show me a million medical facts that go
against my opinion [God individually creating embryos]. I choose to
believe that God and his word are infallible. I choose not to lean on my
understanding, but trust in the Lord with all my heart. So, its all
good." "EA, that is exactly what I believe. That all birth
defects and any illness is directly related to a specific sin. The word
says that we will be cursed down to our 4th generations I believe. But
through prayer and confession it is possible to break curses." "I personally fell [sic] that abortion begins at
conception." "I stumbled upon this [cult leader's] site today, and
it totally gave me chills! To think there are people who believe this man
[is Jesus, reincarnated]... I will pray from them..." "man its scary that people are gullible enough to
believe that" *** 'Death by Irony Overdose' Certificate *** "Oh my, this guy believes he is the messiah! I
couldn't believe my eyes when I read it." "Have these people even READ the Bible. Sheesh. Peopl
are so freakin' stupid!" "I just don't understand how this guy can have any
followers. I'm truly a skeptic of everything. Besides, the only one I
choose to follow is the one true Christ who died and was buried and rose
again..." "Lightning and thunder are signs of the coming of
judgement...is there anyone you need to warn? This is not a coincidence...
God is warning us!" "A transitional fossil is a fossil that would show
one species 'in change' to another. For example: A fish changing into a
lion. In order to show proof of this change there would have to be a
fossil that had a fish growing legs, getting fur, becoming much larger,
ect." "In all actually we, as humans, are closer physically
to monkeys since both monkey’s and humans have tailbones, apes do
not." "And man lived very old til noah's ark. I think that
humans are going worst with time. I also think that they spoke by
telepathy at that time." "you shouldnt have to prove there is a god. He made
it so that way you didnt have to. All you need is faith, and if that isnt
enough for somone eles, then thats there problem. Tell them that the book
of god is enough proof, and thats why he left it for us. End of
disscussion" "Consciousness can make matter. Essentially that is
exactly what you are doing every time you communicate... If you and I were
disembodies minds (yet able to communicate), and we were ALL that existed
(in the void) we would eventually build a universe between us by
exchanging information." "The very fact you have this question is proof there
is [a god] because why would you be asking if there was, you wouldn't
care, you would be doing what ever you want because you believe there is
no God!!!" "You Atheists seem to have some pretty low
expectations when it comes to existence. Why should I believe you will
behave as morally as someone who believes they are destined for more than
maggot-food, and why should I believe that you will behave more morally
than someone who believes they are constantly being watched by an
omnipresent, omnipotent entity? You aren’t making much sense." "Atheists are taught that ultimately there are NO
CONSEQUENCES for their actions. It does not matter if you were an
altruistic saint, or the most cold-blooded murdering, thieving, rapist...
And as a result, Atheists tend to live their lives as if there are NO
ultimate consequences for their words and actions." [Replying to 'unsupported assertion'] "why don't you
just go away? Let the Christians debate..you better pray to your chance
God that I don't ever become a moderator or something. your entire brain
is an unsupported assertion." "Unsupported? How so? Jesus' existence has been
proven... They have also found a piece of what they believe to be Noah's
arc. If you ask me, 'atheism' is unsupported assertation." "He just calls every argument an unsupported
assertion, it's the equivilant of a 5 year old sticking his fingers in his
ears and screaming so he dosen't have to hear the truth." "one thing that always intrigues me is time is based
on Jesus and his walk to the cross... [He] must of been doing some cool
[CENSORED] to be that important that time is based on his very
existance..." "Your ignorance is astonoshing...I mean it really
makes me sick.... why would god want losers that don't believe in him or
his son in heaven... I'm not trying to be pushy I just care about you and
every other non believer , why...I may never know..." "The socialists (communists) have taken hold of our
legal system and are trying to bring America to it's knees from the inside
out. Nikita Khrushchev made a promise to this nation. He told us that
communism would overtake our land and Russia would be victorious 'without
firing a shot'... You see, McCarthy had it right. It was the liberal
'socialist' leftists that gave the senator his 'negative' history.
Unfortunately they were able to sway public opinion against this man. He
was successful in only delaying the inevitable." "now we see that you have the ability to cut and
paste from secularhuminasim.org... I have some bad news for you. You are
relying on half-truths and deceptions based on earlier half-truths and
decpetions based on even earlier half-truths and deceptions... I'm getting
ready to post some scientific facts... you will toss up pre-generated
refutations neatly packaged for you by a guy wearing a bow-tie...You will
lose" "Atheist starts with the premise nothing is created,
which is contrary to our intuition. Atheism is not the default position,
if it were, the term would not concern itself with God." "The truth is, I do not entirely understand that
[killing an innocent man for our crimes] either (but I never
claimed that my beliefs were philosophicly justifiable) I am just
gratefull that it is true." "Themes of Genesis... It actually affirms gender
equality, believe it or not." "What's immoral about slaughtering infidels?" "Maybe the power outage [in Italy] is God trying the
get their [the Vatican's] attention?" "Maybe it's not God trying to get our attention.
Maybe it's the world governments testing our reactions when we lose our
luxuries and/or essentials. (Do they have plans for us we don't know
about?!)" "But maybe God is showing the world who the REAL
light of the world is, only the Christians are the ones taking note. And
if I am wrong on that theory, then IMO the only other possibility is a
mass conspiracy of some sort..." [On Wesley Clark's comment about the possibility of time
travel] "Great ... just what we need in the White House - a guy who
doesn't realize that Star Trek is FICTION. Beam me up, Jesus. There's no
intelligent life down here." "Makes for some really cool movies, but that's about
it. Anyone who believes they can go back in time is nuts. Anyone who
thinks you can go into the future, which by the way, HASN'T HAPPENED YET,
is even nuttier." "It won't do any good to quibble about how
'successful' naturalisitc science has been. This can only be attributed to
pure chance." "The reality is that not only can't scientists prove
things 'absolutely,' they can't prove anything period. The selection of
one theory as an explanation over another is purely arbitrary." "Sperm and eggs are not humans... They are parts of a
human, but they are not humans. Fetuses are parts of a human, AND
individual humans. Not all living humans have brains, and not all
living humans have legs. Neither criteria should legally exclude them from
the right to life." [Emphasis added] "The Catch is not till you reach the 33 degree [of
Freemasonry] you find out you are worshipping Lucifer." "It's funny how you will NOT accept God without
proof, but you will accept other things without proof. No one has PROVED
evolution yet, but yet you accept it as fact. There is a reason why it is
the THEORY of evolution. At least be consistent in your beliefs" "So again, WHY do you accept evolution, gravity as
FACT, without the proof, but for God, you have to know everything? " "Essentially if someone tells you they are an
Atheist, then what they are really telling you is that deep, deep down in
their Soul they believe that they are God and you and everyone else are
merely figments of their demented imagination." "The Atheists and Materialists are looking for a
'Theory of Everything' They want to reduce the universe down to a math
equation. The problem is that once they succeed they discover that math
equation has been running in their subconscious mind and has been
generating the universe all around them all along!" "And even though a cell's only way of reproduction is
to split in half, Animals today surely don't split in half. How'd that
happen?" "Well you don't have any evidence for angels either
Nathan, why isn't SETI [Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence] looking
for them?... Why is it okay for Atheists to look for aliens based on no
evidence, yet Atheists are forbidden from looking into 'God' based on no
evidence. It sounds like simple hypocrisy to me." "The Atheists are using their normal method of
operation by trying to obscure the actual issue here." "everyone seems to be missing the point so i will say
it again. God created everything. evolution says that a entirely new
substance was created." [Replying to 'why don't you believe other holy books?']
"the quran and the book of book for mormon both speak of a prophet
after jesus lived. when clearly the bible says that there will be no
prophet" "once you accept the story of jesus, anyone can know
that he is clearly the Lord and Saviour. and because of this his word is
fact." "and my God is not my god, hie is the God of all.
There are not other gods." "my text has been proven, people just choose not to
acknowledge it. jeses was killed, he was risen, he was the son of God.
that is all the proof that i need." "there is no hindu God. study your religions... many
of the scientific theories have yet to be proven including the theory of
evolution. however christianity has given an answer to us for more or less
everything." "you really have absolutely no argument. you can not
show me something false that i know to be true. besides you are some
little teenaged kid that hasn't seen nearly enough of te world to be albe
to truly judge what is true. after 10 years, please come back and talk to
me." "but i believe in the bible because it corresponds
directly with christianity... " *** 'This is Your Brain on Creationism' Trophy *** "actually evidence is now starting to mount against
evolution... neanderthol man probably did not exist. evolution is a dieing
myth that atheists cling to for hope... to go through life not having to
answer to a higher power. atheism is an easy road through life." "the only evidence that we have is facts and what we
read and hear.creationism has stood the test of time, however time an and
time again scientific fact is often broken down and disproved. it will
continue into the future as the only crutch atheists and non christians
hold onto." "... my goodness, why are you so quick to cram stuff
down my throat, prove evolution first of all, it has never been proven,m
io want someone to prove it. if you can prove evolution correct, i would
consider it as a a possible fact. but no one has proven it." "also the majority of the world does believe that
there is a supreme being. if you could show me some stats going othe other
way i will buy it, but in every course i have taken in history or science
that this was discussed, we have been taught that majority of the
population of the world believes in a supreme being, which means
creation." "... the more i came to believe in christianity, the
less need i had to hold on to scientific beliefs." "I love how logic applies to everything and everyone
except for the liberal..C'mon captain, let's use our brain for once." "but you must realize that anything against
evolutioned is being hushed by the scientific field because of fear that
creationists will use it for their benefit." "Well, I don't know what to say. Except that, well,
just a conspiracy theory... Bear with me. It is somewhat possible that
scientists have been hiding the evidence for creationism from the public
in order to push evolution to the forefront. Why? I don't know." "Have you heard about {these dubious claims of Paluxy
Man Track-quality}... Of course you haven't. They're on websites you
wouldn't even dream of going to (like AiG) because you have been
brainwashed into disbeliveing anything that is related to evolution. You
may say otherwise, but it is the truth." "And how about all them ape skulls that have been
posted? They're probably just that- ape skulls (NOT human skulls for
further clarification). It's even possible they're fake. You accept them
for truth because a man with a degree says they're true. But what if they
are lying?" "If you read history you would know that science is
just a theory with no evidence to base its assumtions on in the first
place..." "Darwinism is pseudoscience ,why some people believe
it?" "why all creature's mouth is on their head ? even ant
have a mouth on their head .why their mouth not on their belly ?the path
of food will more near if mouth on belly . if you believe darwinism you
must admit that mouth can on other part of body. this is my atheist
company 's funny question when I ask him why thunder only in summer." "why history only several thounds years ! in this
short time creatures can't be from Evolution! who can say the earth has
450000000000000000000000000000000... years ? if somebody can prove the
earth has such a long history ,in the same method I can prove my cat also
can do research work ." "Steven Hawking is a spinach man ,I met a man he said
his belly can speak ,his thoery is also so called science. yes .too many
stupid guy here." "I was wondering if any of you have heard about
Agnotism?... I would like to know more about Agnotism and the way it
stands compared to Athiesm." "The U.S. being in the UN is like a black guy being
in the KKK." "Also, when I ment by evolution, I also meant the
secular idea that God did not create the Universe, but rather it was made
with processes (like the Big Bang)." "Why God is not Santa Claus... For one thing,
he isn't a he. We assign a gender to deity out of convenience or
ignorance. For another, God neither wears a red suit, nor smokes a pipe.
But mostly, God does not make a list of who's naughty and who's nice; nor
does he reward good children and punish bad ones. God is not about judging
and rewarding and punishing." "This is what is known as integrity and character
among conservatives, and is completely lacking in liberal circles. You
might learn something from watching how people with morals work..." "When liberals are presented with evidence that one
of THEIR guys has been bad, they attack the source and do whatever they
can to keep them in power, in spite of crimes committed." [Replying to 'Early embryos have no brain...they are basically a parasite'] "The Lord Almighty, referring to LadyShea's soul when it floats up out of this world's septic tank for His inspection: Methinks the lady has no charity... she has basically been
a parasite breathing the air plants produced and eating food Mexican
day-laborers harvested except when she held her breath during the Bork
supreme court nomination process." "No you may not be heartless and cruel but you are
heartless and callous in your belief that developing homo sapiens 'have no
brain.'" [Replying to 'Coma patients have brain activity'] "So
do the brain dead. But, unlike you, I don’t ask you to take my word for
it." "I can only conclude that some people literally want
to see as many pregnancies as possible aborted and suffer a sense of
personal defeat every time a potential abortion client Chooses Life." "How many of subscribe to the idea that the steep
decline in violent crime rates in the early 1990's is attributable to the
aborting of many of the crime prone un the early to mid 1970's??? Don't be
shy raise your hands." *** Freudian Slip of the Day *** "WE can all agree that macroevolution is a really
good explanation, but as for micro, it is a different
story" "The big bang theory is just a theory some stupid
people came up with so they wouldnt have to own up to God,they still will
have to, its kinda funny..." "who cares about Jesuit priests any way? they aren't
christian or athiest." "The funniest thing about the big bang theory is that
some people are dumb enough to believe it,thats the funniest part about
it." "Dont need to [prove the Big Bang wrong],its been
proven wrong hundreds of times,g2g,bye and God bless" "hey dont jump the Gun.. we dont know that there is a
god, we just know there wasn't a big bang" "They have no possible way to know of what happend a
million years ago,let alone a couple billion. Well,if they have a way to
know,i'd like some proof. a million bucks says no one will be able to give
me some proof..." "you won't even answer the post! please, if you want
to post 'strawman' and all of your smart words, do it on another post, or
concede on this one because you are not answering anything." "I don't know how many times we've told you WHY they
will never abandon the big bang theory, or any other silly theory that
they need so desperatly to validate the needlessness of a God, you WILL
never listen...but thats ok, we'll just keep telling you." *** Bizarre Creationist Assertion of the Month *** [Attempting to explain distant starlight in a 6000-year
old universe] "Can the light from this or any other such supernovae
be seen from earth with the naked eye... if a telescope is required to see
the supernovae then the light would not have necessarily reached earth
yet." "I don't see how deserving death makes us worthless,
though. If we were truly worthless, there would be nothing to save, or
moreso, nothing to burn in the first place." "The science is hopelessness antropology where devil
them swing and chant flame deat chant. And idiot not concept because thus
utter is ignorance and infidelity is at." "You mean just like the way the religion of
Materialism and Scientism require you to believe in the existence of
'Matter' (i.e. 'God') without any evidence?" "Technically, it is possible to do some of those
things with giving glory to God in mind. THanking him for the food
(icecream), asking for guidance in your posts, etc. Maybe even taking a
whiz, though I cant think of a way to make that work." "You know scientists and all you people that straddle
there coat tails are missing a huge fact...the earth was unable to support
any form of life as we know it today around or even millions of years
after we supposedly started evolving from the single cell organism...and
what the hell makes anyone think we can evolve from apes or monkeys or
anything ellse that are dna doesn't match? our blood and genetic makeup is
just not compatible , and that makes all the differance." "... to be honest thats why I became a believer ,
because the bible states that if you believe in any of Gods word you have
to believe it all...I have always had a natural ability to tell if someone
is lying or if something is not true..." "I believe that God or some God-like power exists in
the universe. I cannot prove that God exists, but I might be able to prove
that it is impossible for God to not exist..." "I have always been disgusted by the attempt by
homosexuals to infiltrate this organization [the Boy Scouts]. Seems like a
sick attempt at getting yourself in a position to have contact with young
boys." "We're not the ones lying. 'Homophobia', for example,
is a falsehood of mammouth proportions: 1) The only thing I (or any
Christian should) fear is God's wrath. Period. 2) If I were to fear
anything else, there's a buffet these days, but homosexuals wouldn't rate.
I feel sorry for you, but fear's just not a part of the equation. 3) Homo
means 'same' and 'phobe' means fearing, so technically, 'homophobe' means
fearing anything similar. I have two stereo speakers on either side of me
as I type that're both black." "I agree that homophobia is a real word. However,
it's spun by homosexuals as an attack phrase for anyone who doesn't bow
before their agenda. A more accurate, objective definition remains
'someone who fears like things.'" "'Homophobia' is a propaganda phrase/lie debunked
above... Many of those mischaracterized by it are (not gripped by fear or
hatred but) simply fed up with the Left's graduating efforts to
homosexualize American society." "Homosexuality is perversion and from the pit just as
all sin is. It is a lifestyle based solely on sex and does not belong in
company with children. If I was to find out that any person in direct
contact with my child was a gay, wether they be teacher, babysitter, etc.
I would end that relationship without supervision... " "Absolutely. This [homosexuality] is a lifestyle that
is based on sex the same as pedophilia and bestiality are. This
'lifestyle' choice is a lack of morals and decency brought out as
temptation by satan and this group is interested in sex alone." "Oh what a joke. Reach an enlightened state huh? That
is just funny to me. Sorry my friend but there is no enlightenment. There
is Jesus and anything outside of Him is darkness." "Maybe if gays didnt shove it in everyones face with
their silly rainbows (satanic twisting of something good into something
evil) and their pyramids and little sayings about family they wouldnt have
to deal with it." "Let me first say that I don't condone the genocide
American Indians. I think it was a very bad thing that it happened and a
very sad chapter in our history. But maybe for the good of the entire
world, it had to be... This is the reason God told the Isralites to
anaihlate the people living in the promised land because if they didn't,
they would end up adopting their pagan religion. If the USA had adopted at
its birth a hybrid Christian-Native American religion, do you still think
we would have become a great nation?" "Sometimes, God uses one culture to do in another. As
the verse goes, his ways aren't our ways and his thoughts aren't our
thoughts." *** Post of the Week for October 5-11, 2003 *** "First of all, THERE WAS NO GENOCIDE OF INDIANS IN
THE US! There were indian wars, sure. But the fact is: The indians are
still here! There are still Indians in the eastern states. Lots more in
the west." "God used this country in more ways than one to stop
the evil [Nazis] from taking over the entire world... If we had adopted
the the American Indians pagan religion our becoming a great country would
have never have happened... Similar to why God had ordered the Isralites
to clear the promised land so that they would not get infected with pagan
religions." "I did wonder what fantasy you would conjure up to
replace the belief that it might possibly be a ghost." "Whether one likes it or not, ghosts and the like are
demonic, or demonic manifestations some may wish not at accept it but that
does not change the fact." "No sir, I do not wish pain or suffering on anyone.
What I am saying is that the destruction of a child is murder. I find it
shameful that we have given people that want to murder their baby a nice
sterile environment to do it in. Ted bundy and John Wayne Gacey did not
have a fluffy place to commit their acts in with muzak and flower
arrangements. I also seriously doubt that anyone would have given a second
thought had they accidently killed themselves in the process of destroying
another human life. I therefore say that while it is sad that anyone must
die, if you are in the act of killing your baby and happen to take your
own life, it seems like a pretty natural consequence to me. Take murderers
back into the dark alleys and make them use crude weapons to do their
deeds. You take anothers life in your hands then maybe you forfeit yours
too. So be it." *** 'Physician, Heal Thyself' Prize *** "And you sir have lost all sense of perspective and
common sense by claiming the extensive accounts of the creation and flood
are metaphor and allegory." [Replying to a poster going by 'Lilith'] "interesting
name you got there... Lilith: she fled into the wilderness, where she
mated with subterranean 'demons' and other beings, swearing that she and
her children (the 'Lilim') would always prey on human children... some
people think its cool to have the name of a demon for a message board i
guess" "... how can you expect someone to care about
children, when they glorify the name of a demon who ate human flesh and
SACRIFICED CHILDREN?" "the sequel to this thread will also touch on the
connection to Hitler and nazism and what race of people living right now
could be descendants of the [Nephilim] giants." "the u.n wants disardment so that if a nation steps
out of line the u.n will be allowed to use nukes against that disobedient
nation (this at a time when the u.n is a world govt, world laws, world
court)" [Replying to 'the UN owns nukes?'] "they will own
them while nobody else will be allowed to. (the real ultimate goal in my
opinion)" "I don't see the sin in what [Fred] Phelps is doing
[making a prominent park monument that states Matthew Shephard, a murdered
gay student, is burning in hell]... who is really the sinner? Phelps who
is trying to warn people so they can be saved, or the homosexual rights
groups who tell people that homosexuality is ok even though we know God's
warning against it." "No one knows maybe Mathew Shepard asked God to
forgive him for the way he chose to be before dieing." "gay rights groups are hateful. we can only hope God
will punish them for sending innocent people down the path of disease and
eventually hell." [Replying to 'Do you hope God punishes Phelps?'] "for
what? tell me what he has done which can lead to divine punishment. For 1
i know that he isnt a practicing homosexual so he can't be punished that
way. What has he done which God strictly forbids?" "Do you think satan is powerful enough to put thought
in your head?.. You do know that satan can talk to you just as well as God
can right? You have to compare what you think God is telling you to the
bible to know if satan is at work... you say the bible is full of errors.
If that was so, there is no God." "Well... it is a Catholic holiday called 'All Saints
Day' or 'Hallow's Eve'. Since it is a Catholic holiday it is not a
Christian holiday. The reasons and activities of that holiday are
completely unscriptural. Since the Catholic church is steeped in Paganism
from the start... it is a pagan holiday." [Emphasis added] "Prime numbers do not occur in nature and are only
known to intelligent beings." "If you believe in survival of the fittest, why on
earth would you NOT lie, cheat, steal or kill to succeed in life?" "You refuse to take your worldview to it's logical
conclusions. If you have a responsibility for the 'evolution' of our
species, then it requires you to exterminate anyone whose genetics are
inferior, in your opinion. Why do you think communism has failed so
miserably?" "They've tried to re-define marriage in a way to
allow a relationship which has it's own 'natural consequences' in
AIDS." *** 'Thank the Gods You're Not President' Award *** "If I was President of the USA... Social
Security would be outlawed. The public school system would be thing of
history. If you have 8 children, you pay for 8 children to go to school...
Nasa would die. If you want to put a salllelite into space, your company
will pay for it. The post office will die... cocaine, heroin and ecstacy
would be decriminalized... The orpahnages will be for profit, which will
maximaze placement to good quality families... The death penalty will be
given to those who commit the following crimes... Rape... Armed robbery...
Homosexuality with anyone under 16." "How come there is not affirmative action for Asian
people? Because Asians have a high mental capacity and have no need for a
governmental handicap. For some reason, blacks do." "We become honest and tell homosexuals that they are
sick and in need of psychological health. I think that the majority of
Americans are sick ands tired of having the homosexual agenda rammed
downed our collective throat." "If the government was allowed to print objective,
truthful statements about homosexuality, the populace would be against it.
The American people are sick of the gay agenda anyway, but the powers that
be has honest Americans too busy with work to pay taxes to object to the
agenda. If you are too busyn slaving, you cannot complain." "[If I were God] id probably just wipe them all out
honestly...people talk about how wrathful the God of the OT was but really
he was quiet merciful..." *** Post of the Week for October 12-18, 2003 *** "I personally like the terms pro-death, pro-murder,
pro-childabuse and so on. I stand firm on if someone wants to slaughter a
baby then they can have a rusty hanger and a dirty back alley. Sin is
filth and abortion is sin. Do it without all the fluffy utensils and
sterile beds. You want to murder, do it like John wayne gacey in the dark
recesses of society and take your chances." "What's to say 'God' can do whatever he wants,
considering he's able to do everything that is not against his nature? (so
no 'can god make a toilet that he couldn't flush himself down it?' type of
questions). Tell me some scientific discoveries as a direct result of
atheism. Evolution? Woo. How practical." "What about the miracles produced in the historical
books of the New Testament? The Earliest Book was A.D. 37 (Mark)
[actually, circa
70 AD]. Not nearly enough time to fabricate them." "Evolution has really nothing to do with genetics,
unless you call variation among species evolution." *** 'Oldie but a Goody' Trophy *** "Addressed to all Angry, Obscene & Offensive
Atheists: I am David Mathews and have come here to provoke you to reveal
your anger, your bitterness, your hate, your bigotry, your prejudice and
every other flaw of your dismal and hopeless soul. The more obscene and
offensive you are the better. Don't restrain yourself. Let go of your
inhibitions!" "I see no reason why anyone should become angry about
these things. I am not here to become angry at atheists, nor am I here to
make atheists angry at me. But when I get an opportunity to press
someone's buttons, I will do so." "Hello Atheists, I am inclined to tolerate you people
and must say that atheism is not inherently offensive to me." "Have you ever wondered why you are so angry? I could
tell you ..." "Atheists are funny when they become offensive. No
doubt about it. Atheists are a whole lot more entertaining when they are
emotional, obscene and irrational." "I should derive amusement from angry people,
offensive people, obscene people and for all others who go out of their
way to display hate for their fellow humans for any reason whatsoever. I
am amused by how their behavior reveals their character." "If you spent a little time listening to yourself you
might realize that you come across as a very angry, sad, bitter person. Of
course, I might be mistaken. Perhaps in real life you are a positive,
delightful atheist." *** 'Most Informed Critique of Another Religion' Award *** "and also, i cant beleive that you actually quoted
the koran, i mean, i as far as i am concerned the whole muslim faith is a
joke. in fact i hope that everyone who beleives in alla or muhamed
alli or whatever his name is should be shot on sight."
[Emphasis added] "I should be a little skeptical that they never found
this fossil [of a dinobird]- There is no evidence this creature existed, a
drawing does not make things true." "I think one of the worst things we can do is... Try
to prove faith... Faith is just plain old faith....knowledge and reason
not required." "God created Adam..........then took one of Adam's
ribs and created Eve. Are all males born missing a rib, and if
so.......doesnt this kinda disprove the evolution theory?" "If i become a doctor it will be to heal humans. If i
wanted to heal primates i would have been a veterinarian." "Similar anatomy and DNA doesn't mean we are
primates, sorry. And if humans are primates, why do they get such better
care and respect than animals?" "I am convinced after witnessing on secular message
boards lately that if Jesus Christ doesn’t return to earth soon some of
us Christians will definitely be killed for our faith here in
America." "From my frame of thinking it is so obvious that the
one true God of the Holy Bible exists that I don't feel it is badgering to
support the truth on a secular message board. Now if someone comes to a
Christian message board to try to change peoples belief in God When they
know he exists I would consider that badgering." "I think if the apostle Paul were alive today he
would be on the secular message boards. When he was on earth, he loved to
debate with the unsaved people." "I was kicked off a bullitin board for depressed
people. I went there specifically to witness." "Free speech? Satan wants freedom to corrupt minds
and to corrupt our children and the constitution was written by a bunch of
Christians who never intended for freedom of speech to be used AGAINST
us..." "There are many children born in the world for no
other reason than to be scrificed to Saten as soon as they're born.. It is
like a breeding program Satenists have..these babies are concieved and
born with no record of their birth for no other reason than to be
killed.." "That story about the toddler eating ketchup got me
to think... what if the rapture happens and God leaves the babies and
toddlers behind if they're not saved?.. There may be other babies and
toddlers left in their homes alone trying to scrounge up whatever food
they can find." "Perhaps they [former unbelievers] will check in with
people that they knew who were christians. If that happened, then they may
find your toddlers. Otherwise, I fear for the worst." "When I was pregnant I imagined that if the rapture
happened and children weren't taken the little fetal-child may fall to the
ground... they wouldn't have a fighting chance." "When God destroyed the world before, He saved Noah
and his family only. There were MANY children (of all ages) who perished
in the flood. We are told that the End Times, they will be like 'the days
of Noah'... Stop thinking earthly and start thinking heavenly. Lean not
unto thine own understanding." "Often people say God is just or fair and would not
let children die in this manner or suffer this way. But The God of the OT
is still the same God. In the book of 1 Samuel He instructed Saul to kill
everything living thing.. animals, men, women, and children when they
conquered that city... Children suffer horrible in other third world
countries daily... I do lean toward... those with no christian parents
being left behind to find their own way to christ before it is to
late." "God set his precedent the last time He destroyed the
world. Whether you understand and agree with His decision is up to you. I
can only go by God's previous actions in this. I do not think it unfair
that children are covered by their parent's salvation for earthly
life." "I agree that Jesus showed how dear children are to
Him. But God sent his wrath on children through out the bible... babies..
children, etc... I can't understand it.. but I don't have the ability to..
I am human He is God. I have to trust in the fact that I know He is
sinless, and a Just God. So He knows better then I why what He did was
right." "People are saying that God would not let children
suffer the tribulation.. all I am saying is what are you basing that on?
He let them suffer the flood, he let them suffer mass killings by his
command, he let them die in sodom and Gamaroh.... why would the
tribulation be any different? He is still the same God he does not
change." "There seems to be an awful lot of wishful thinking
going on here... Why did God kill all those 'innocent' kids in the time of
Noah instead of placing them on the ark with Noah and his family?.. Do not
judge God based on your own feelings." "I stick by my commentary and yes , 'wishful
thinking'. It is an accurate assessment. If you cannot back it up with
scripture, then it is you 'wishing' it were so." "I'm rather disturbed at how people blithely throw
the term 'fair' around in the first place. It's not fair if God doesn't
present the Gospel to children? Since when is God obligated to present the
Gospel, or save anyone, to begin with????? It would be just as 'fair' if
God threw us all into hell and ended it at that." "... in this life and in this flesh I would not be
able to stomach a God who is so cruel as to throw a little two week old
baby into hell or leave one behind to be at the mercy of who knows who of
the left behinders.. After this earth after this flesh if God was to leave
said children behind or throw them into hell I will be able to better
handle it..but for now..I can't concieve of it.." "Getting a little dramatic aren't we?.. Whether you
are emotionally able to accept a God who allows children to suffer is a
personal issue for you.. has nothing to do with scripture. God allows
children to suffer HORRIBLY every day! We don't have a certain age where
we suddenly don't deserve heaven. We ALL are born sinners and deserve
Hell. " "Somebody else pointed to the dilemna parents would
have if all children did automatically go to heaven . . . why not play it
safe and take the child's life? Why 'risk' having the child grow up and
going to hell? Extreme example? Well, when you think it through, this is
exactly the kind stuff you run into when you believe that ALL children go
to heaven." "I see the flood as an example of what is to come..
Gods judgment on the earth and its people. He did not rescue innocent
babies then.. so why would He this time around?" "The flood is an entirely different story. When the
Bible says that Noah was 'perfect in his generations,' it means that his
bloodline had not been corrupted by intermarriage with the Nephilim
[fallen angels]. It is quite possible that children had to be destroyed in
the flood due to corrupted genes." "They all had the 'Sin gene' not the nephilim gene.
Noah was the remnant." "There are fallen agels (demons) that are incubus and
succubus (incubi/succubi) that do have sexual relations with people. This
has been documented since the times in genesis with the Nephilim of that
time..." "Pull up any propaganda you want, I'll stick with Fox [News], and apparently alot of other people plan to do the same. p.s. N[ational]P[ublic]R[adio] is the most worthless piece of garbage that ever came across an airwave, and I'm hlping pay for it. That's gay! p.s.s. PBS is just as worthless." "I say bomb the crap out of Syria...That country is a
toilet! I DO NOT HATE ARABS!!! But I do not think to kindly to terrorists.
Doing nothing is no longer an option..I say we join Israel in liberating
Syria, then we go Iran and do the same thing..and we keep going until we
clean up the area." "I know that evolution is like that stupid chart that
they pull out in biology class with the monkey slowly evolving to a
human... umm no that totally condradicts the whole adam and eve.. so how
can you say that evolution doesn't contradict the BIBLE..." "Find the truth now, before you stare him in the face
on judgement day and deny him one more time. Dyrwen is dead... so is his
so called theories. Maybe if you deny God some more.. you can say hello to
Dyrwen in hell." "That argument makes NO sense, even to the majority
of medical professionals. The egg and the sperm are NOT human, they are
single celled organisms..." "If you can accuse me of wanting to force women to
carry their babies to term, then I can accuse you women who have abortions
of having forced their men to have had sex with them. That’s no less
logical. Just more absurd." "Well, in California, if a woman doesn't put her seat
belt on her body, cops have the right to give her a $60 ticket. Isn't that
a 'way whatsoever' that someone else has a right over a woman's
body?" "I see that some people here answered 'yes'-- they'd
kill for money. Is this what you atheists stand for?" "Many years ago when I was an atheist/agnostic a
contract killing for a large amount of money would certainly have been
within bounds of consideration... " "I would only kill athiests." "As far as God exsisting there are seven absolute
solutions that proves god exsists. However I like to use a common
philisophical solution. Most people believe there is a higher power
therefore there is." "So, when you die, and 10 generations have passed and nothing from your life is remembered then how are you supposed to have meaning in that? The truth is ,that It is my egotism that forces my belief in god and a eternal existence, I must exist after death, I am more important that just this life...The Idea of only having this life and nothing more is not appealing to me in the slightest. This life is NOT enough for me, it may be for some but not
me." [Replying to 'That's called Argument from Adverse
Consequences'] "Theres nothing more annoying in here than having
every comment 'labeled' as such and such sort of arguement... I'd like
once or twice to see a debate / discussion where none if these ridiculous
titles were assigned to someones arguement and someone just dealt with
whatever the issue was." "Its not the terms [for logical fallacies] themselves
that are irritating. Its this attitude I find in here of 'Oh, thats a
________ arguemement youre using there. I'm not permitting those types of
arguements so I guess you'll have to concede'." "Presenting the type of arguement someone may be
using to that person just makes it sound like you're just trying to come
of as overly intelligent and, honestly, to me makes one sound ignorant of
the actual topic at hand. Almost like a diversionary tactic. You do NOT
have to title someones arguement in order to debate. It sounds
ignorant." "Eh, no thanks. I've seen enough [explanations of why
logical fallacies are bad] to last me a lifetime. Its garbage like that
that finished driving the nails in my coffin as far a 'reason' goes... And
Please dont get me started on [the] T[heory]o[f]E[volution]/carbon dating
and circular logic tonite." "I have found out I ask to many questions opens me up
to doubt. I am working on no questions at least not too many." "Yes ignorance is bliss. I have put myself through
way to much by questioning the obvious." "Amen, Evee. Its always wonderful to see my brothers
and sisters standing by their faith thru all adversity. Maybe apologetics
does actually serve some purpose afterall" "The science debates are |