Fundies Say the Darndest Things! July/August 2004 Edition
Created August 28, 2004

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"I never get quoted. [Sad smiley] On another note, I find it rather ironic how most of the quotes he uses to 'prove' how wacky we are are either taken out of context or true statements, i.e. antitox's mention about the Arabs serving a demon as a god."
- Whosoever, RaptureReady


"NO!!!!!!!! that is absoulutly 100% wrong and false, that is a lie. I assure you, Jesus DID NOT have sex with Mary Magdeline or marry her. If he did, we would have 'contradictions' in the Bible and the Bible would be 100% false. Its a myth. That means Jesus would be a liar and wouldnt be all that he says he is. Thats crap that the Mormons believe (and i think JW? not sure-) dont believe in that lie hommee!!!"
- JesusFreakGuy, POD Warrior Forum


"oh-well ok i guess. Yeah, Jesus having sexw/ Mary Mag. and having kids is a humanist/World View... Besides I didnt know that it [The Da Vinci Code] was fiction. Thought it was a mormon/humanist book or something."
- JesusFreakGuy, POD Warrior Forum


"Even though The Da Vinci Code may be a fictional literary work many will read it, and some that dont know about Jesus Christ will take that fictional noval as being a...... well non- fictional work. Based on facts and proof. Which obviously isnt true! But the mere fact that yall think he is over reacting is showing that as the body of Christ we are allowing more and more mot so Christian things to corrupt our minds... we should be more like JesusFreakGuy and know that if something or someone says anything that isnt right, or true, about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ that we get enraged and stand for what is right."
- GodsBaptistGirl, POD Warrior Forum


[Replying to "how do you distinguish what is true from what is not true?"] "EASY!!!!!! If it aligns with the Bible-It is true
If it doesnt-It is false
viola!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It really is THAT easy, really, but some people are still oh, so confused about it. This really is easy stuff. I mean If some kid at the university, or another random individual, made this claim about the diety of Christ, that DID NOT align up with the Bilble, get rid of it immediatly. dont even pay attention to that. it is false!!!!!!!!!! thats what it all boils down to really."
- JesusFreakGuy, POD Warrior Forum


"I CAN CAST OUT DEMONS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I literally Have done it before, and have personally eye-to-eye witness of seeing it. Many ppl have done this before throughout history. note demons are NOT fictional characters with a stupid red-costume and pointy horns and a store bought pitchfork. It is not some demon that you have heard of in your Onimusha warlords game... Because of the evidense of demons and evil spirits possessing, opressing people etc... that is another reason why i cannot take back my 'faith' if you want to call it. but EVIDENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
- JesusFreakGuy, POD Warrior Forum


"If you look back evolution far enough and ask what was the first thing that came into existnce before the atom, they are going to give you a flurry of 'i dont know' or basically -dirt. So we are literraly looking at God versus dirt."
- JesusFreakGuy, POD Warrior Forum


"KID-WAKE UP!!!!!!!!! physically though didnt God wake you up this morning!?!?! HE DOES NOTHING?!?!?!?!?!?!?! HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!"
- JesusFreakGuy, POD Warrior Forum


[Replying to "After surveying the true horrible nature of YHWh through the scriptures and the implications it held, I could no longer maintain belief. what kind of madman uses 2 bears to murder 42 children for mocking a prophets [Elisha's] bald head?"]

WHAT?! thats horrible! thats just sick! who did that? I never heard anything as such. Some really sick, perverted people out there. Do you have a link? What is YHWh? Is it some cult with a few references to Christianity?"
- JesusFreakGuy, POD Warrior Forum


"I'm calling all Christians on this board, all God fearing, God loving people, to open your eyes to this subject who considers himself a follower. We absolutely need to keep Bush in office. He has done a fabulous job and will keep our country together. We may be losing troops everyday over in the middle east. Just remember, that every man who dies over there for us, shares the same glory that Jesus recieved when he died for us."
- Diapers, POD Warrior Forum


"also God is so totally awesome and i have no doubt that he is attempting to fix the broken world through P.O.D. and a musical revolution whence the song revolution"
- matteous, POD Warrior Forum


[On the creationist organization AnswersInGenesis' Statement of Faith, which states "By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record."]

"yeah, sounds good to me. They have enough sense to know that the Bible is the infallible word of God. The Bible is our only infallible guide. Therefore if mainstream 'science' is reaching conclusions other than what the Bible teaches, then we need to look at the evidence through the lense of infallible scripture."
- mhess13, 123 Christian Forums


[On 48 Nobel Prize winners condemning Bush for ignoring sound science] "Just goes to show how ignorant you can be and still have the accolades of the world around you."
- sparrow, 123 Christian Forums


"I believe Bush is correct. Go Bush! Go Bush! Go Bush! liberal science lies!"
- blueeyeliner, 123 Christian Forums


"It's hard to explain to someone that God is not sexist when they look at these scriptures [where a woman is unclean twice as long for birthing a girl as a boy] a certain way without further study on it that gives God the benefit of the doubt. Eve was decieved,and there was a price to pay for that. It appears that God was a sexist,but he is not. Womens punishment had alot to do with her reproduction and childbearing. Women are able to have both girls and boys,and males are not better than females,a male child is a sign of her husbands strength. A first born son is the first sign of a mans strength. there is much more information about this,but there are good reasons for these things."
- blueeyeliner, 123 Christian Forums


"Men who say they are for womens rights are often only saying it just so they don't have any responsibility to the relationship with a woman. many men don't want to lead because it's a job that only a true christian male can handle... It's very scarry to know someone who is so down on God like you are,and that there are people who claim to know the bible who actually have no clue to what it means are says."
- blueeyeliner, 123 Christian Forums


"Women have much more rights with christian husbands who are gentle,thoughtful and kind to them."
- blueeyeliner, 123 Christian Forums


"I wouldn't be surprised if/when public sex is declared an 'orientation' and you can't speak against it without being slapped with a hate crime. Running around naked will be the norm."
- TCapp, TheologyWeb


"What deters them is a show of force. Unfortunately it is a bit unPC to decapitate one of the detained insurgents (or perhaps 10) for everyone one allied one they decapitate. But that would likely make them stop."
- jason, TheologyWeb


"Carbon Dating - will they ever learn?... Naturalists are forever harping on the validity of radiocarbon dating. Mind you, there is some validity - the physics and reasoning are sound - but the real-world results are far from what the claim is. Theory is one thing; practical applications and results are often times quite different... [Insert some links to the Institute for Creation Research]... Their 'absolutes' are actually made of silly putty except for the dates that are within the young Earth model. These are the only ones that can be verified with a true 'absolute'. Well waddaya know... So much for their beloved carbon dating - will they ever learn? Place your bets, ladies and gents."
- Jorge, TheologyWeb


"Intelligent? Yes. Critical? Only to a certain extent - they certainly aren't very critical about their world view. IOW, they don't even question the 'fact' of a billions-year-old-Earth. It's downhill from there."
- Jorge, TheologyWeb


"Fox News is fair and balanced. It's fair to give the Republicans an alternative to the liberal run networks and the incredibly liberal CNN, and such an alternative balances things out to an extent (they need at least two more networks like that)."
- Fatty Arbuckle, TheologyWeb


"fox news is fair and balance it supports both liberal and conservative viewpoints equally and it shows how liberal leaning other outlets are

twilly spree you are supporting the death of thousand of children repent or suffer the dire consequences"
- Christianotaku, TheologyWeb


"Biblically, some men lived to be almost 1000 years old in the pre-Flood world indicating a huge difference from what we have today. For a Naturalist such things are difficult if not impossible to accept but that's not what matters. Some people don't accept that men set foot on the moon - the historical facts remain nonetheless."
- Jorge, TheologyWeb


"I gotta say that this whole issue is quite the comedy of errors right now. Unfortunately, it will become a destructive tragedy if gay marriage becomes the norm across the country."
- Jinx72, TheologyWeb


"The tragedy is that marriage is a particular thing. It's not something that changes with differing cultures or ideologies."
- OneFollowingHim, TheologyWeb


"they being a friend to you doesnt change the fact what theyre doing is wrong... if that persons supports gay marriage [because they had such a friend] they are not a conservative... next you know your gonna be saying if everyone were a friend of a murderer theyd be pro murder.."
- Christianotaku, TheologyWeb


"yes gays can be considered murders they hurt the same person=God and thats enougth for me

who cares if theyre wonderful human beings? yeah sure the suicide bombers I know are 'wonderful human beings'"
- Christianotaku, TheologyWeb


"Accepting same-sex marriage won't fix the problem of immoral lifestyles and behaviors. It's hard to solve that kind of problem by govenrment endorsing 'marriage' for them. Individuals who base their central identity on the kind of sex they have will not simply stop sleeping around because the U.S. govenrment recognizes their immoral relationship as marriage any more than cohabitors have solved any social problems by their immoral relationships. Face it, immoral relationships lead to problems not solutions."
- OneFollowingHim, TheologyWeb


"so what the fact is its not right people should not allowed to do things that are not right ....and they deffinetly should be able to feel pain if they get pregnant

contraceptives should not be allowed..."
- Christianotaku, TheologyWeb


"in nature its only natural sex only serves as reproduction those who use it for play must suffer the dire consoquences..."
- Christianotaku, TheologyWeb


"Abortion just needs to be a worse embarassment [to women] than pregnancy, which, thanks to the pro-abortion movement and banned parenthood, it's not. In fact, it's a badge of honor to them."
- themuzicman, TheologyWeb


"I dont know about you guys, but I don't care how my chicken or meat is killed. Whether its drowned, suffocated, hacked into bits, however, its still going to end up in my stomach and then in a drainage thingy. It really doesn't matter. Whether chickens are stomped on, thrown against a wall, we're still going to eat them. Why does it matter?"
- R2_Wildfire, POD Warrior Forum


"too many lives would be ruined? What about the fetus? Where is their choice? Apart from the minor detail that abortion is murder, it is also a very selfish act. Ok, shoot me down for saying this, i'm ready for it. So you were raped and now you're pregnant? Deal with it. So your daddy knocked you up? Deal with it. So your life/health is at risk? Deal with it. So the fact that someones life is at risk makes it ok to take a baby's life? makes no sense to me. Abortion just makes a mockery of life."
- Liam_, POD Warrior Forum


"I think it should be illegal. Health of mom for me is not a reason to abort if the baby has a chance to live. Like I said before, we live in a time where sex is very dangerous and can kill you, you know that risk when you choose to have sex."
- DaTrollz, POD Warrior Forum


"But we can just stand back and watch the baby die. The point is the mom knew that risk, and choose to take it. The baby didn't have any say in that. She had the Right To Choose, and she choose sex. "
- DaTrollz, POD Warrior Forum


"I believe our job is to protect our children, above all else, thats our job as parents. Lets say you have a heart defect, and you are going to die unless you kill your child and implant his heart into you. Would you kill that child, so that you can live, and be a mom to the other children."
- DaTrollz, POD Warrior Forum


"Noting the events of the last few days and history, Islam appears to be a faith of murder and death, in my own view a satanic religion. Why not erase it from the face of the Earth? We have the means to do it, the Hydrogen Bomb. I also notice that we 'The USA' wouldn't have the Hydrogen bomb without Albert Einstein and other Jewish Scientists. I think the book of revelations is about the death of Islam and NOT Christianity."
- Zorro, Jack Discussion Forum


"Not Hatred, Pest Control."
- Zorro, Jack Discussion Forum


"I am not a troll, just someone who sees the truth. Watch this [Nick Berg's beheading] video... THAT! is Human sacrifice to an Evil god, or Demon!"
- Zorro, Jack Discussion Forum


"Unlike College Professor propaganda, killing the bad guy’s works. You can't talk Military dictators to death no matter what your college professor thinks. "
- Zorro, Jack Discussion Forum


"The question Evolutionsists can't answer... And the question is this: 'Which evolved first, sexual orgasm, or the desire for sexual orgasm?' (Let's watch the evoutionists run round and round and round and round and ....)"
- Colossians, ChristianForums


[After 5 pages or so of rebuttals] "So far there has been no answer. And neither can there be. Like all false beliefs, from the legalism-grace hybrid of the Seventh Day Adventists, through to the 'date-the-rocks-by-the-fossils, and date-the-fossils-by-the-rocks' evolutionists, the idea that orgasm can evolve is inherently circular: it is not possible for anything dependant upon itself, to evolve. This is a philosophical impasse."
- Colossians, ChristianForums


"We have watched the evolutionist camp run round and round.. as predicted. Now let's watch how hard their hearts become when they lose the fight on their supposed preferred turf: logic. Let's see whether it is really logic that they hold to, or whether it might be something more spiritually oriented, deep within."
- Colossians, ChristianForums


"That means organisms on this planet have the power over they anatomy and mutate accordingly to their needs. Then why cant we mutate so that our cells dont get older? Why cant we mutate so that we may never die?"
- Intrepid99, ChristianForums


"I can just hear these organisms now: 'If only we'd known what pleasure we could have had earlier! Now it's too late! But let's pass on what we have learned to our progeny whom we produce without this pleasure! Yeah! Great idea!' Once again our evolution friends have our ends producing another's path to it. In the Republic of Evolutionary, rain falls on people because cows are wearing raincoats."
- Colossians, ChristianForums


"I believe creation is a recent phenomea, the universe around us speaks to a young creation, and the interplay of creation outlined in Genesis makes more sense that any science book I have ever read. Man made explanations are largely myths."
- cameron222, RaptureReady


"Those ancient wise guys were trying to pass down wisdom. Homosexuality can, can, lead to a persons becoming crippled with a bad arm and a bad leg. They will go blind in one eye, they will develop symptoms of Alzheimers and they stand an increased risk of heart attack as well as other maladies"
- Happeh, Tung-Fu Martial Arts Forum


"He's...God, dude. He created everything. Can you think of a reason why he shouldn't be big-headed?"
- Warchicken, TAUniverse


"These kinds of 'imagined' problems are all throughout the Bible, and they stem from people not knowing what the hell they're talking about. Add to that that no atheist will seriously listen to an apologist, and you have a recipe for some very self-confident and ignorant people who believe they know all there is to know about the Bible. No amount of argument can bring them around, because they do not wish to bring them around."
- Warchicken, TAUniverse


"I just don't understand why some atheists claim to also believe and accept evolution when it is part of many ancient pagan religions? Why can't an atheist just be an atheist?"
- blueeyeliner, 123 Christian Forums


"I gotta go to worl right now--But I will tell you this--I've sat through services where ppl'z limbs have grown back supernaturally. It's awesome!!"
- Protosschick99, BlizzForums


"So explain this to me. He [God] can crush you or nurture you depending on whether you do what he says, and your answer is to say 'why should I?!?' like a petulant four-year-old asking why he should do what his parents say?"
- Warchicken, TAUniverse


"...NOW [The National Organization for Women] is deranged and hates America. Anyone who tells us that we need to put in trust in the UN or the P.U. EU is against America surviving as a nation. By the way, we as Americans should be putting our trust in Jesus rather than the UN cause Jesus Christ is the only one not the UN or the EU that allows us to have Eternal Life and the chance to get into Heaven"
- billiefan2000, RaptureReady


"Well, I know that Michael Moore and some of his friends will be at some polling booths in Florida on election day. I really hope they don't show up where I will be. You all may see me on national television."
- halfpint, RaptureReady


[Replying to (paraphrased) "If the ACLU existed at our nation's founding, maybe slavery would be abolished, and women and minorities could vote and have rights sooner"]

"And we'd be a nice, ultra-secularized Socialist nation like Russia was. The wet dream of every hyper-[church-state]separationist like yourself."
- Jinx72, TheologyWeb


"Apparently Noah did not eat meat until after the flood. Up until that time we were all vegies... Steven you need to reference those statements. Or not write complete nonsense."
- The Midge, ChristianForums


"This proves God exists... Perfect truth is the answer to every question in the universe. Even if someone says that there are no answers, they are either right or wrong. There is an answer to that question. We call those answers, God."
- Carico, ChristianForums


"The eagerness of those who form the values of our societies today -- mainly people of immoral life, even by pagan standards -- to deny that there is any God who will judge their actions does not fill me with confidence in the truth of the value-idea system they run in our society."
- wrp, ChristianForums


"Since there is an answer to every question under the sun, then there exists a design... If we were created by chaos, there would be no laws of nature nor any predictability. There would also be no logic. People who disagree with this are simply trying so hard to prove there is no God that they contradict everything they stand for in doing so."
- Carico, ChristianForums


"The very fact that we difine words or seek to understand how things operates presupposes a design!"
- Carico, ChristianForums


"And as for the fossils records, it is all imagination. No real transitional forms were found. And Archaeopteryx was a full-fledged bird... why should I have to search the web when I have the evolutionists right here? They should have all the answers."
- Moonflicker, ChristianForums


"And yes I consider bacteria and trees to be intelligent agents. You may not understand their intelligence but that does not mean it doesn't exist."
- John Paul, EvC Forum


"It was perfectly fine to send Americans to die during the Second World War to save the lives of the white British, French, and even Germans, but after WWII atheists started complaining about every war America has been in.

They didn't want us to help the Vietnamese in Vietnam. They didn't want us to help the Koreans in Korea. They didn't want us to help Arabs during the Gulf War in 1991, nor did they want us to free Iraqis in 2003.

How racist can atheists/liberals be?"
- Northern Christian, ChristianForums


[Replying to "If you believe that I pity you"] "At least I believe in some things."
- Northern Christian, ChristianForums


"It just seems to me that every single time the US tries to help others the liberals step in and complain, except for what we have done to help Western Europe... Why is it that no one complains about the wars we fought in Europe, but so many have problems with Vietnam and Iraq?"
- Northern Christian, ChristianForums


"Atheists, by denying that there is a God by which human beings are patterned and to Whom we are responsible debase all of us to the status of animals. Atheists are not racists, but by implication their system of beliefs is far worse."
- rglencheek, ChristianForums


"That is part of the problem for fantasists; they can no longer seperate reality from fantasy and they dismiss as irrelevant those tools that could be used to help them. I dont doubt you think you have a perfect grasp on reality."
- rglencheek, ChristianForums


"Another case of a liberal apologizing for someone else. For your information there are more descendants of Amerindians alive today than before Columbus arrived... Save your pity for your aborigines, why dont you?"
- Douglaangu, ChristianForums


"I have been accused of racism several time in this forum over the last week or so, IIRC. Why should atheists get a pass?"
- rglencheek, ChristianForums


"Atheism relies on intellectual dishonesty; to a mindless conformity to the values and ideas of one era, not arrived at intellectually, and incapable of rational statement or defence. Hardly any atheist posts online consist of anything but vituperation."
- wrp, ChristianForums


[Responding to "You mean to say that non-Christians aren't American?"] "They AREN'T. This country was founded on Christianity and Christian morals. When they even THINK about removing 'under God' from the Pledge they are anti-American. And Massachusetts should be booted from the Union for its unholy crimes. "
- Conservative, ChannelOne.com BBS


"I think that things like this [demonic possession] don't happen here, because satan uses a different type of deception here. In the U.S., the enemy has worked at convincing everyone that he doesn't exist, which sets him free to cause trouble undetected. He has convinced the majority of us so-called 'educated' people that it is superstition to believe in him, that all our problems are caused by mental illness or some other scientifically understandable phenomenon. So, he goes on his merry way, and we try to fix things by every method except the power of God that is necessary to address the root of the problem."
- student, RaptureReady


"We do [have demon possession here], it's called schitzophrenia. Paranoid schitzophrenia (if memory serves from college) is where you hear voices and other types of disturbing behavior. We call it mental illness and try to treat it with drugs. If you went to a mental health institution anywhere in the USA, I will almost bet you they're full of demonically possessed people."
- DentnDude2, RaptureReady


"There are a lot of demon possessed people walking around in the US. How many news reports are there continuously about people killing their kids and saying that the devil told them to do it. Or even more obvious- that 'God' told them to do it. These people are demon possessed, they might not live naked in the tombs, but eventually, those demons do manifest.

We just don't call it what it really is here in the 'civilized' Country. We like to call it mental instability, or severe depression, and then we try to treat those demons with medicine and therapy. [rolleyes smileys]"
- CAT, RaptureReady


"I once personally observed what I firmly believe was demon possesion in high school. A fellow student had been using drugs all weekend and the foloowing Monday, he suddenly sent beserk. He was foaming at the mouth, trying to rip off his clothes, screaming in the most awful voice I had ever heard. It took nine or ten full grown men to subdue him until an aid unit arrived. He was biting and clawing like a wild animal."
- LennaD, RaptureReady


"Agreed ! and in Africa, the people pray to Satan to rid them of the demons."
- Ali M., RaptureReady


"I have worked in one of the Kansas State Mental Hospitals and those people in there with mental illnesses are NOT possessed. Yes, some can be, and I met a couple who I could tell were. But this is where a little discernment goes a long way."
- Mercy4Me, RaptureReady


"Yes, demon possession is real and it does happen here in the states - but few of those truely possessed are in assylums. They are walking the streets, looking just like any other person, while Satan walks beside them, seeking whom he may devour."
- mikitta, RaptureReady


"It works there [third-world nations] because people are not as educated out of spiritual awareness as we are here. By that I mean that the more educated a people becomes, the more cynical they get about spiritual matters and so Satan uses covert ways to keep them in bondage rather than reveal himself as he does in other places."
- valerie, RaptureReady


"I'm sorry, but it does happen. Ever been to Charleston, SC?, New Orleans, LA?, Biloxi, MS?... I could go on... how about anywhere here in Birmingham, AL? There are posessions that take place ALL THE TIME.. even here in the good old USA. Many people just 'rationalize' it away."
- antsinmypants, RaptureReady


"I hope we drop a nuke in fallujah and get it over with."
- Werewolfe, BlizzForums


"to me, it [gay marriage] is like the global warming issue. does global warming pose a threat to anybody currently living? no, not really. but 100 years from now if the temperature has increased then maybe it will. "
- 79TA, POD Warrior Forum


"Oh I just hate these threads...'The Free Muslim Coalition Against Terrorism is calling on the Islamic Saudi Academy to remove a textbook used to teach first-graders. The coalition's director -- a Muslim -- says it's acceptable to teach that Islam is the only correct religion, but he believes that explicitly telling first-graders that Jews and Christians practice a false religion could breed extremism'..........

COULD BREED EXTREMISM???? Isn't that their goal? And in their so-called right to teach whatever they want are they not teaching from the wicked koran? The same koran that justifies KILLING Christians and Jews? Do Christian or Jewish schools do this? I've known of children in plain old every day families taken away from the parents for less than this."
- halfpint, RaptureReady


"Your fiction that the bible isn't true,thats what. Jesus came to the earth in the form of a man. Not strange to see people on earth,and Jesus Christ was actually on the earth. Big Foot was a huge scarry creature that some people claim they saw,but not many. It's just shocking that you'd compare God to something odd."
- blueeyeliner, 123 Christian Forums


"Besides they [Muslims] actually believe God is on their side - they boast alot - after 9/11 these guys egos swelled to titanic proportions."
- Blessedx4, RaptureReady


"We should band Islum over here just as Christianity is banded over there!"
- Sky Watcher, RaptureReady


"I agree with Sky Watcher. I don't believe Islam has any place in our society. This nation was founded on Chrisitianity. I think one of the biggest mistakes our country ever made was allowing immigrants to infiltrate their false religions into our society. It has polluted and diluted our faith."
- SpokenFor, RaptureReady


"With the threat of Islamic Terrorists wanting to destroy our country, how is this any different than WWII when the Japanese were assumed to be a real threat to the U.S. and consequently were corraled into Intern Camps? Should this action be considered again? If not, why not?"
- waitingforhim, RaptureReady


"Nevertheless, say anything about Christians its ok. We have a loooonnnnggg history of turning the other cheek instead of picking up the swords that were given to us by our Master Jesus and putting them to good use."
- halfpint, RaptureReady


"No matter how strong and defiant the Middle East is--they are going down by the awesome works of God Almighty. Is America the tool for which God uses to destroy the enemies of Israel? hmn."
- CanaanBound, RaptureReady


"In my opinion Islam will not be important soon. Why? See Ezechiel en Iasaia! They get crushed, and the remainings and moderate muslims will convert to chistianity as they understand that the God of Israel is their God too after they lost their battle Gog-Magog that wil kill a quarter or onethird of the people on earth."
- Flying Dutchman, RaptureReady


"I think they will kill many of us during Gog-Magog wit that big sudden attack....but in the end they will get killed....Ezechiel. They ( muslims) will not win, , Israel wins, and the Revived Roman Empire wins. See all the signs of EU, including the Tower of Babel...EU HQ Strassbourg etc......woman that rides the beast statue before this building! And who is wanting back his Roman Empire? The Vatican."
- Flying Dutchman, RaptureReady


"Or in other words, New Age is created to archieve Global Governance and One World Religion...see the old book of Secret Doctrin and older of Albert Pike. They mixed everything in it and all religions are part of it. See these influential people, see the UN, see EU etc...it is their creation!"
- Flying Dutchman, RaptureReady


"See the bankers and those elite, they are all in it, they are so powerfull, pressing for peace in the Middle East for their cause! Think about EU and how the Vatican is connected to it."
- Flying Dutchman, RaptureReady


"I was good friends with a woman who practiced Bah[a]i. Yes, they are incredibly difficult to witness to - it's like trying to sculpt room tempurature water. In my experience, Bahi are very passive people, but very very good at circular logic and side stepping the issues."
- mikitta, RaptureReady


"I once met a woman of the B'Hai (sp?) faith. She told me she was Persian. If I recall correctly, Persia is the ancient name for Iraq..........which would make it home to ancient Babylon. Could there be a connection between this religion and the tower of babel?"
- kathy mendel, RaptureReady


"The days of 'Stargate SG-1', 'Contact' and the almighty 'Discovery Channel' are incapable of answering these questions, but they feel the need to come up with their own science fiction answers because it proves to them (in a blind way) that there cannot be an all powerfull creator. They do not understand that logic cant support their conclusions."
- rmills, 123 Christian Forums


"It's not only the communists but the homosexual activists who are appalled that George Bush is married to a woman!"
- photo3, RaptureReady


"Time to end the resistance in Najaf... Let's test out those small nukes we've been working on."
- Desert Eagle, BlizzForums


"I was being humorous. But seriously, aren't we fed up with this nonsense? It's time for American forces to move in and crush the freedom haters."
- Desert Eagle, BlizzForums


"The general public is stupid and should be ignored. Think about how many lives would be saved by putting an end to this resistance. Think about how many civilians are being killed by these monsters."
- Desert Eagle, BlizzForums


"The general public is stupid and should be ignored. Think about how many lives would be saved by putting an end to this resistance. Think about how many civilians are being killed by these monsters."
- Desert Eagle, BlizzForums


"They are holed up around a mosque considered on of 'holiest sites' of the Shiites. The solution? Destroy it. But this might cause the shiite majority in Iraq to rebel against the coalition... Our job is to destroy the enemy threat while minimizing U.S. casualties, not Iraqi casualties. If this incites more people to rebel then more people will get killed, it's as simple as that.

But then other towns might be outraged! Then we blow up their mosques too. And finally we just govern from the sky and from our Navy fleet. Any 'problematic' areas should be dismembered through cruise missiles and airstrikes. The objective in war is to eliminate your enemies capacity to wage war. You must break their spirit, their will to fight, you must make them realize that resistance leads only to mass death and suffering."
- Desert Eagle, BlizzForums


[On Wicca] "its on the same page as Buddism, Islam, Satanism, Scientology, Antagonist, Atheism, Mormonism, Jehovahs Witness, New Age, basically all false, but no where near Christianity. is it a real religion- nope- just another cult really

oh yeah, what i also forgot-'I'm undecided to the subject but are glad that they have something to believe in.' Well, i can easily say i believe in beating up women or murduring people just as well. Does that make me not right then?"
- JesusFreakGuy, POD Warrior Forum


"IMHO aliens are demonic manifestations created by satan to get people's minds off Jesus."
- MNGirl, RaptureReady


"[Banning Islam] Sounds like a good idea to me......wish we could do it here."
- cktb2793, RaptureReady


"Nanotech in the Biomedical industry is where we will see the most drastic impact to world. Does it not say in the bible that during the tribulation men will beg to die and even try to kill themselves, but that they will not die? Hmmm, could it be nanotech rebuilding broken, diseased bodies?"
- Chahta, RaptureReady


"People need to stop worrying what Arabs think and start worrying about how to kill them before they kill us."
- Rev Prez, Internet Infidels


"I have studied up on shamanism dealing with western (US) indians and after many bad dreams (conviction) I said I'd best put the crap down, why bother with something I am forbidden to understand because I know truth and truth that is in me won't let me do this. So I know someone that is of the elect cannot be deceived. It just isn't possible, I am living proof."
- halfpint, RaptureReady


"I realized, why would an athiest be worried about me filling his daughters head with doctrine, unless somewhere deep inside he believes somehow there is some truth in it. An athiest doesnt believe in God, so why would he worry about my so called doctrine?????"
- kvat3r, RaptureReady


"The very fact that he [George W. Bush] has to say something like this ['I know what I'm doing'] 1) shows us how interesting the times really are and 2) is a political consequence of brooking liberal cowardice and intellectual dishonesty in time of war."
- Rev Prez, Internet Infidels


"The President doesn't say incompetent things. Liberals only say he does to cover for their own intellectual inadequacies."
- Rev Prez, Internet Infidels


"There are no conservative extremists. Religious extremists (liberal churches, Islamism), communists, Nazis, fascists, etc., all have one thing in common--their primary political trait is fundamentally progressive."
- Rev Prez, Internet Infidels


"we need to postpone the elections and move forward with the war on terrorism. next target: syria!"
- BarryG, FreeConservatives


"I have been worried for months that the unprecedented irrational, blind hate of President Bush that has been generated by liberals, in general, and Michael Moore and MoveOn.org, in particular, would result in assassination atempts against President Bush. Maybe their friend, Osama bin Laden, will be the one to make the attempt."
- Naturalized-Texan, FreeConservatives


"They will never confess it, of course. But do you doubt that the foaming-at-the-mouth Bush-haters at DU [Democratic Underground forums] and Internet Infidels, etc. would welcome a direct attack on Bush? I don't."
- Maggie_T, FreeConservatives


"Riiiiight and we're to believe this [Kerry will be tough on terrorism]??? When his Wife's money is funding those very self-same terrorist organizations?????? Um isnt that biting the hand that feeds you? They have all to gain by having kerry in the WH and everything to loose if Bush gets to stay in the WH."
- Rink, FreeConservatives


"For those towel-head countries, a fair warning: 'If you harbor those hell-bound bastards, envision your major cities turned into glass-lined craters. We're done with trying to reason and compromise. If you kiss al Qaeda's camel-humping asses, or support them in any way, you're dead men. You have one week to turn them over to us. After that, look for the US to plant a new crop in your countries: huge, fast-growing mushrooms.'"
- DoctorDoom, FreeConservatives


"My personal opinion is that the democrats will engage in assassinations if they don't get their way. Blaming Bin Laden might be deflection enough. What else can they do? Really? First they couldn't get their message out, then it was censorship because the message was rejected. What else is left but to eliminate those who disagree with them?"
- Kathy29, FreeConservatives


"Any Comments on Opening Ceremony for Olympics?... I happened to watch the floats go by and also some of the entrance of the olympians. I don't think I've ever watched the opening ceremony before. Did you feel in your heart any evil? So Godless."
- Anne-teeter, RaptureReady


"Where do I start. Complete and utter demonic humanism."
- BHiles, RaptureReady


"I totally agree with the quote above! I turned on the Opening Ceremonies approximately 40 minutes into the telecast, and I could not stand to watch any more than about a minute or two of that demonic, human being and Greek-god worshiping 'garbagefest!!' I could literally feel within my spirit the demonic hopelessness and evil coming across my television screen during that approximately one or two minutes that I watched those Olympic Opening Ceremonies!! Terrible, just simply horrible and terrible!!!!!"
- Saved By Jesus, RaptureReady


"Does it never occur to these people [cultists] that if they are the 'only ones' blessed with some kind of information - it's probably not the truth??? "
- Javanut, Tribulation Forces Community


"So what if science works in the 'real world?' That's like saying gasoline works in internal combustion engines."
- Albert Cipriani, Internet Infidels


"An atheist converting is more of a supernatural event than the river parting. 'Big miracles' were used to establish the canon. But as I said someone converting esp. an atheist is an even bigger miracle."
- Ed, Internet Infidels


"Actually, it's the radical left that hi-jacked the dem party and turned it into the party of hatred. Yes, I'll say it again: THE PARTY OF HATRED. And those who don't like that can drop dead for all I care."
- Maggie_T, FreeConservatives


"I hate Michael Moore."
- ThomasIsUnderrated, FreeConservatives


"I hate Michael Moore too. He's nothing but a fat propagandist thug."
- Taylor, FreeConservatives


"I've never felt such hatred for any person in my life. It's kind of scary, actually."
- ThomasIsUnderrated, FreeConservatives


"the movie [Fahrenheit 9/11] needs to be banned, all copies of it burned, and moore charged with treason and sedition. we are at war, and we need to get rid of our enemies at home as well as overseas."
- BarryG, FreeConservatives


"Barry, in an ideal world, that's exactly what would happen. Unfortunately, we live in a liberal-infested world, where freedom of speech is used by liberals whenever they want to spew their loathing of this country and the principles on which it was founded. And for that reason, doing what you suggest (which I think is a great idea) would only make Mikhail Moore a 'victim of conservative censorship' and therefore, a hero. We live in strange times, my friend."
- Maggie_T, FreeConservatives


"I would love it if PigBoy came to North Dakota...I'd make damned sure that we BOTH made the 6:00 and 11:00 news. Whether by me peppering him with questions or right jabs and left hooks...makes no difference to me. One way or another, he'd answer my questions. I agree that he has every right to make any movie he wants...but, by doing so, he also takes on the responsibility to suffer the consequences of trashing our military, the office of the PotUS and America (in general)."
- Timberwolf, FreeConservatives


"sorry, i don't buy the 'anything goes' interpretation of the constitution, and certainly not in a time of war. liberal terrorists are desparate people and will resort to desparate traitorous measures to steal the election. we have a 'free speech' amendment, why not a responsible speech amendment as well? time to clean house!"
- BarryG, FreeConservatives


"It’s obvious why I hate liberals. The only question I have is, why doesn’t everyone?"
- Nutrider99, FreeConservatives


"...there are sooo many reasons to despise the creatures. The bottom line is, they hate this country and seek its destruction. They are our enemies. They are not good people with bad ideas. They are bad people with deadly ideas. Their visceral hatred of President Bush has identified them for the evil, anti-Christian enemies of liberty that they are."
- Nutrider99, FreeConservatives


"I despise liberals because of their smug attitudes. They think they're right, and anyone that dissagrees with them can either shut up or face their wrath. Then they commence name calling."
- Shadowmane, FreeConservatives


"I detest liberalism/leftism. I feel utter, undiluted, undissembled contempt for liberals. Lazy, self-centered, self-indulgent buggers, every single one of them. They don't want to do anything for themselves. Not even think. They shun responsibility, blame anyone and anything else for their failures. They are slaves to their genitals and call that freedom. They are dangerous for any country they live in. They are the enemy within.

And yes, they HATE this country. And don't anyone try to tell me any different. They hate America because she's rich, strong, and powerful. And liberals have been brainwashed into believing that is something to be ashamed of. They want to turn this great country into a pathetic, weak, inconsequential socialist hellhole, like so many European countries nowadays, including their idol, France.

Liberals/leftists are the worst thing to have happened to mankind since the Black Death. They are even worse than the Black Death because the latter just killed everyone and put them out of their misery. Leftism grows like AIDS, rotting everything in its path.

Leftism is without a doubt one of the worst scourges of mankind. "
- Maggie_T, FreeConservatives


"What's To Show??? For one: The destruction of the black family and community! While the blacks may have been poor(er) and segregated, they had a community in which they looked after each other. In their successful efforts to buy votes, they [Democrats] destroyed the families and community."
- Etaoin, FreeConservatives


"Dubya is very popular in Crawford. MM [Michael Moore] would be wise to avoid Texas period. Especially Crawford where murdering liberals is a misdemeanor."
- Warlady, FreeConservatives


"Bill Maher on CNN... Wow this guy is almost as crooked/liberal as Michael Moore. Mocking the Rapture and Jesus Christ. I'm looking forward to him burning in hell. Then he won't be mocking anybody but himself. Maher has offended me, as i'm sure, other Christians as well. People like him are what drive this country further and further from God."
- MrVirginia, FreeConservatives


"The fact that the hell-bound moron [Maher] has only contempt for Christians and hasn't a clue about actual Christian doctrine doesn't stop his from spouting opinions of it."
- DoctorDoom, FreeConservatives


"There is no constitutional right to call any sort of relationship marriage, but homosexual do have the right to marry members of the opposite sex--same as pedophiles, polygamists, and folks who get off on animals.... Maybe we should stop discriminating against murderous sociopaths as well."
- Rev Prez, Internet Infidels


"What's does consent have to do with marriage? I think it's time proponents of same-sex marriage spell out exactly what they think marriage should be, and then defend it before the American people."
- Rev Prez, Internet Infidels


"The other alternative is for homosexuals to stay away from straight folk, far away...like Canada or something."
- Rev Prez, Internet Infidels


"I was just reading a post that said if some one is involved in a relationship and they deem it emotionally healthy, then it does not matter if it someone of the same sex that is in that relationship because if you take away the sex, you still have a relationship.

Do you UNDERSTAND where this is going? If john doe takes away the sex from his emotionally healthy relationship with his dog, or child, there is still a relationship there. This is EXACTLY where homosexual unions will take this country. It may take 20 years, but it will happen, indefinitely"
- Eucharista, ChristianForums


"Also, history in any other culture that accepted homosexuality as a norm for any extended amount of time shows that beastiality, sex within families and sex with children and parents occurred. all civilizations that accepted homosexual married inevitable fell."
- Eucharista, ChristianForums


"True, but remember that the acceptance of CONTRACEPTION in 1929 by the first Christian church to ever approve of it, the anglican church, was the cause of the rise of abortion and the disrespect of women and the conjugal act of love in general.

Then came the rise of divorce as a direct result of both of these and the loss of the sacredness of marriage between man and wife and therefore a breakdown in families and therefore homosexuality from poor relations with father figures in those families.

It didn't just 'pop up' one day, it had a beginning and that was contraception."
- Eucharista, ChristianForums


"I think Monkeys having monkey babies disproves evolution. Apparently we evolved from them, so why are they still here. Until I see a monkey pop out a human, I will never believe it."
- snoochies, POD Warrior Forum


"We are getting smarter as humans. Organization from chaos? Cancels out evolution as a plausable theory in my book."
- hayden, POD Warrior Forum


"Christians do not think science is useless, we just interpret the facts in a different yet completely rational way. God created things with the appearence of age. Please show me how the existance of a God is irrational."
- hayden, POD Warrior Forum


"One, the things u have there for proof of evolution are in fact nothing but lies. Chew on this, that is an example of microevolution. Which that is possible by just pure experimentation. However, you are arguing that this 'microevolution' proves 'macroevolution.' U see there is a big difference. Micro has to deal with microscopic organisms Such as bacteria. Macro has to deal with visual organisms Such as things you can see(apes). The problem starts when u try to prove 'macroevolution' with 'microevolution.' YOu see there is proof for 'micro' but none for 'macro.' When you show me a picture of half ape half man then and only then can you state your evolution 'theory', which is really nothing but a religion, As fact. If you really want someone to show you more go to www.drdino.com . Peace out for right now. Remember none can stand against God....not even these evolution punks."
- dcttrinity777, POD Warrior Forum


"I know the state dept. hates Jews with a passion, but now they are in league with the various groups to de-Christianize our history."
- Ruckus, RaptureReady


"Tolerance blinds once judgement and the truth of the matter (Islam) is too much for people to comprehend. One day they will realize (for only mere seconds), as their head are rolls away from their body. A little too graphic? Good! wake up y'all..."
- SamsonOption, RaptureReady


"Nothing like rewriting history to make Muslims feel good. Speculation and wishful thinking doesn't make it so."
- felixthecat, RaptureReady


"Atheist? [fainting smiley] Just unbelievable! It is beyond me how a child turns out to be this way, when a parent is born again!"
- msjagcat777, RaptureReady


"Even President Reagan admitted that he was once a liberal. Thankfully, he grew out of it and became an American!"
- 26Franklin, RaptureReady


"Regardless of whatever excuses you come up with for removing the Bible from public, this nation will fall. And that's all it is- parroted excuses. It's foolish first of all to put man's laws or his interpretation of his own laws above God's word and His laws. It's foolish for any nation to go against God. To deliberately set out to target Christians and specifically God's word. That nation will not survive, I don't see how it can. And I do think this constant round of terrorist threats, warnings and even attacks are part of that judgment."
- Blessedx4, RaptureReady


"If all slaves were treated appropiately and correctly... there would be no negative connotation applied to slaves or slavery. But, since many slaves were abused, killed, raped, maimed, etc., which was not in accordance with the bibles regulations, there has been a negative association applied to 'slavery' and 'slaves.'"
- Not_Registered, Internet Infidels


"Who is determining the slavery defined in the bible is 'immoral' and how did they arrive at this conclusion? We have a UN today. Without it, and it some cases with it, but defintely without it there would be dictatorships and the mistreating of people would happen constantly. Is it 'immoral' not to have a UN, or is the UN in place just because without it people would act up and things would get chaotic. Can the same be said about slavery? If conducted properly, by the regulations of the bible, slavery is not 'immoral'."
- Not_Registered, Internet Infidels


"Many foreign people think capitalism is 'immoral.' I said (and I quote) 'If all slaves were treated appropriately and correctly.' Getting treated not 'good' and 'unjust' doesn’t fall under those regulations."
- Not_Registered, Internet Infidels


"I never said that slavery should be used, but the slavery defined in the bible is not immoral or wrong. Slavery, when corrupted, as happend in early America leads to great unjustices, but that doesn't make slavery, as the bible defines it, wrong. Communism, in theory, is great."
- Not_Registered, Internet Infidels


"You focus on the allowed beating of slaves. If slaves are lazy and insubordinate then they need some incentive to work (i.e. a beating). The bible doesn't tell masters they must beat their slaves. It says beating is allowed, being that it is necessary as an incentive to work. In fact, some slaves became slaves voluntarily, and thus were probably effecient workers for their masters. They probably never needed incentive to work because they knew what they were getting in to, thus beatings weren't necessary. Some slaves even chose to stay a slave under their master instead of being set free. Why? Were they sadist or masochist? No, I'm sure they had pleasant relationships with their masters because they did what was asked of them and needed no beatings as incentive."
- Not_Registered, Internet Infidels


"The bible has restrictions that were there to prevent masters from abusing their slaves. As I have stated, one can look at a child/father relationship and see the same issues arrise as in the slave/master relationship. Fathers are allowed to beat their children, but warned not to abuse this right. Some fathers abuse their children and that is wrong. Does that mean child birth should be illegal. That's a rhetorical question, but a hint for those who don't know the answer: it begins with an N. My father, and many others, raised me in accordance with bible regulations. I was beat, but not abused, when needed. Eventually, I didn't need physical incentive to obey. My father and I have a great relationship as I'm sure many slaves/masters of the day did. Just as some fathers should not be fathers because they abuse the role, some masters (owners of slaves) do the same."
- Not_Registered, Internet Infidels


"Slavery, as defined in the bible is not wrong. No one has said anything to prove that it is. All people have done so far is reference that beating was allowed, as part of the slavery defined by the bible, in an attempt to equate it altogether to the slavery of early America. If this is not the goal then one must be trying to say that beating someone that wont work as an incentive to work is wrong. No pain to anyone ever (even if necessary). And I thought Christians were the ones with the fluffy beliefs."
- Not_Registered, Internet Infidels


"I never said slavery wasn't harsh, because, yes, sometimes beatings are necessary if the slave is not obedient. But, sentencing a criminal to life in jail is also harsh, but necessary. But beating an obedient slave just because you despise him is not a disciplinary action. It is an action influenced by hatred alone. This is not the slavery defined in the bible."
- Not_Registered, Internet Infidels


"I wonder how these masters would get their lazy, insubordinate slaves to work [without beatings]? Maybe I don't have enough faith in the phrase 'pretty please.'"
- Not_Registered, Internet Infidels


"I agree that IF anyone did not treat their servants/maids with respect then, yes, that would be bad. However, if perhaps only a few treated their servants badly, is that sufficient enough to draw the overall, general conclusion of BAD? The terms 'bondman' and 'bondmaid' (Deuteronomy 15:15 and Leviticus 25) do seem to be referring to actual slaves as a 'possession.' However, though slavery is considered BAD today, back then it was likely considered the norm (a way of life)."
- inquisitive01, Internet Infidels


"So is our current prison system (depriving one of freedom, prisoners beating other prisoners to death, etc.) considered 'bad' by you?"
- inquisitive01, Internet Infidels


"Is it not bad for one to lose his/her freedom, then potentially be subject to BAD things such as being beaten to death (i.e., by other prisoners) or gang-raped? Do these things not sound BAD to you...? Going further with this type of 'logic': Sometimes we all feel like 'slaves' at work, so does this mean we should all quit our jobs? Should our children quit school if they feel like a 'slave' to their homework?"
- inquisitive01, Internet Infidels


"Do we all agree that a police officer is allowed to make arrest? (simple question, simple answer) I've always wanted to be a phrophet and I think I've just had a vision. I foresee several people not answering the question, saying the question is irrelevant, circumventing the question, and ignoring the question altogether. Hummmmmmmmmmm. Hummmmmmmmm. Yeeees, the vision is growing clearer by the second."
- Not_Registered, Internet Infidels


"We need to focus on Jesus, meditate on Jesus, set out minds on Jesus whenever even the slightest desire to have a sexual fantasy arises."
- Sypher2k3, Christianity.com Forums




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