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Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
February 2003 Edition
"Life is the greatest gift God can give and
infertility is one of the harshest earthly punishment he can dole worse
even then death because everyones earthly body will die after a time but
nearly all Childern grow with the dream of one day getting married having
a family many in fact dream of lots of childern !!!" "Satan is a 'spiritual leader' too. He is the founder
on MANY religions, including atheism, humanism, and evolution." [Replying to 'none of those recognize him as
spiritual leader'] "And that is exactly the way
Satan planned it! Clever little devil isn't he!" [Replying to 'Prove that. Got evidence?'] "The
fact that you believe the lies of satan.. and continue to deny God's
existance.... and are continually deceived IS proof!!!" "As long as they have roughly the same gene pools I
think they will stay similar, unless one groups lives in somewhere like
Alaska where it is freezing cold and only those with long furry hair
survive, so only they are allowed to reproduce. I wouldn't call that
evolution though, that is just the gene pool getting smaller, there was no
mutating or anything involved." [Replying to 'miraculous anecdotes aren't evidence']
"Show my your documented evidence that anecdotal storys are
worthless. You really need to quit making these unsubstantiated claims if
you can not back them up with something." "Uri Geller, bends a spoon by thought only. Do you
have a scientific explination for that? Can your evolution explain that?
Can your theory of evolution explain how 1 man can know what the other is
thinking (telepathy)?" "a possibility. but if it wasnt global, people could
easily flee to somewhere else to escape such a flood. there also is some
evidence that suggests there was a global flood (a layer of the atmosphere
being all water" "I have spent my whole life debating this
question.... The truth is .... Evolution is a joke.. C'mon you pitiful
irresponsible cop outs.... The problem is people dont want to be obliged
to anyone and they would like to think we are not responsible for their
actions... therefore the evolution theory suits you all bexause it makes
the whole thing seem like 'just a fluke'." "technically, all evolutionists r racists. if u r
offended by that, then u need to re-examine ur beliefs according to
evolution, shouldnt ONE species be more dominate than another? so either
blacks r better than whites or whites r better than blacks. or maybe its
the AZNs who r the best. wait a second! isnt this racism? yes it is." "no. evolution clearly shows that ONE race of humans
HAS to be superior cause of where they lived, hence evolved to suit their
environment. so yes, evolution leans towards racism and rationalizes
"racial hygene" (sp??)" "are we STILL talking about wood rotting? wood
definately does not rot just in 120 years. some type wood rots in about
100 years, other types of wood can still remain perfectly fine over a
period of 1000 years. the oldest tree in the world is 5000 years old, and
dont tell me that its wood has already rotted up. even if the tree dies,
its wood will NOT rot in 120 years. where did you get this idea?" [Replying to 'no, they share a common ancestor']
"You just contradicted yourself there. By saying that humans and
chimpanzees were once the same species, you verify that we did
descend from apes." "Did you know Charles Darwin, father of this "amazing" theory/truth or whatever you want to call it, flat out denounced his theory before his death?? How can you believe somebody who says that what he said was all a big lie/hoax??? I must say, that's a very very very very very very large coincidence that he jokingly makes a theory and a book up, that is actually true... But hey I guess it is according to you people. I mean if the man who was supposedly Jesus says "OK i lied, I'm not Jesus" could you believe him?? I mean it'd be very hard to believe he actually was if he admitted he wasn't. ON a humorous note, you say we evolved from monkies, well I've met a few monkies i consider more intelligent than humans. In life there are two guarantees after you are born, you
will die, and you will pay taxes. So you are paying to die. Ironic isn't
it?" "There are certain aspects of God that we shouldn't
follow. for example, jealousy. god is a jealous god (cant remember which
verse), and he himself tells us not to be jealous." "humans turning from their original color to negro is
not evolution. it's adaption to the sun's rays, and it didnt take very
long for the skin to change colors." "Darwin had some good theology courses, but he
managed to twist it into a lie. Of course he could not pass it off to
theologians, they know better. But somehow he got the Biologists to buy
into it." "To create, you have to have a creator. That is why
Darwin came up with the theory of evolution. He tried to claim the
universe was not created, it evolved." "Now I'm going to try and bash every aspect of
atheism there is. First off... evolution. Evolution is one of the main,
retarded things atheism revolves around. It's proof in comparison to
Creation is squat. I always here about you morons beliving in stuff like
'Ape-man. Half human, half-man.' in museums. You'll all 'dazzle' at the
skeletons in those museums... but never look at the little picture and
summary of the creature. In the little picture... it shows the skeleton.
For some reason... about one or two bones are shaded in dark. Those shaded
in dark bones are what they have found. Did you know that half-brained
friends that rant on and on about finding 'Nebraska man'. They made up a
whole skeleton... from just one freaking tooth. I'll stop bashing if you
stop bashing Christianity." "The truth is, evolution has been falsified,
creationism is true. Sooner or later, you will figure that out, when your
ready to." "Ops, sorry, I keep forgetting that it has not ALL
been falsifed yet. But MUCH of it has already been falsified. At least
according to Talkorigion.com MUCH of evolution has been falsified. But if
you want to say that talkorigion.com is not telling the truth, I can
accept that also. 'many of the things Darwin said have in fact been
falsified. Many of his assertions of fact have been revised or denied,
many of his mechanisms rejected or modified even by his strongest
supporters (e.g., by Mayr, Gould, Lewontin, and Dawkins), and he would
find it hard to recognise some versions of modern selection theory as his
natural selection theory.'" *** Post of the Week for February 23-28, 2003 *** "Hey, don't knock animorphism. It is a valid part of
any major pagan belief/practise. Even John Hagee will admit to seeing a
woman change from a woman shape when she was posessed into a Panther-like
being. And there is a documented case where a missionary went to africa
and saw people change into werewolves and do many unmentionable things
that cannot be done unless under the influence of daemons. Wicca and
Paganism isn't something to be Knocked. It is a valid religion.. it is of
satan, eventhough they do not freely admit it." "I do not believe that h0omosexuality is a birth
defect.....but if it is.....shouldn't we be looking for a cure....... If
we found a cure, would the gay community take the medicine to get
healed........" "If being homosexual is a result of being born that
way....lets get busy finding a cure. If its chosen behavior, then its the
individual's fault who chose the perverted lifestyle. Homosexuality is
nasty, unclean, leads to STDs and aides and is a perversion....it is also
a health menace to society and should be treated as an infectious disorder
than requires treatment. I also want the word "gay" back. It
used to mean happy and was used frequently to depict that emotion." [What to do if you have a homosexual friend]
"Pray for them, whether they request it or not. Do not be self
righteous to them. And whatever you do, NEVER leave small children alone
with them." "You do not suppose it [logic] comes from the
father of lies though one of his little demons do you? I remember they use
to have these cartoons, where a person would have a little angel on one
shoulder and a little devil on the other shoulder. The angel would be
feeding good things into his ear, and the devil would feed bad thoughts
in. Then it was up to the person to decide which one they would listen to,
if they would do good or bad things." "God is not indifferent -- he's there -- you're just
having a hard time getting past the blinders that atheism has put over
your eyes." "God created darkness by withdrawing his light from
where Satan and the angels were cast down and evil happened. The light in
the Universe now is not coming from God directly as it use to." "And what about enslavement? When you catch a bug
that's infecting your house, do you give it a chance to live... do you put
it in an enclosed area? Surely, not, so why do you complain about these
things? God put them into slavery, but that was the best thing to do. I'd
rather them be slaves than out there killing." "Firstly, God didn't make the people choose what they
did. He actualized their existence in a situation where they chose what
they chose, themselves. Read the "Omniscience and Free Will"
thread where you have been refuted." "The difference between Osama and Yahweh is that one
was correct in what it called "evil" and one wasn't
correct." "Of course no one ever asks: Where are all the
"harmful" mutations that did not survive to reproduce
themselves. Sort of sounds like Heaven and Hell to me. Harmful mutations
are destroyed and beneficial mutations live forever through reproduction.
No wonder Darwin's only degree was in theology. Not science." [After reading about the new nylon-digesting bacterium]
"Evolve to eat nylon, that is so funny. Nylon is a petrolium product,
that is what bacteria are suppose to digest. That is what they were
designed to do in the first place. They may have 'evolved' to eat sugar
and starches because that is junk food for them. " "Maybe liberated women, and they are a sub species.
Most women around the world want a husband who can put food on the table,
a roof over their head and clothing on their back." [Replying to 'the resurrection isn't evidence - it's a
claim] "So i guess you don't believe that Columbus discovered
America? Cause afterall, the only evidence is written account. " "What evidence do you have to support your belief the
Gospels to be false? What evidence do you have an angel DID NOT visit my
father on his death bed?" *** Post of the Week for February 16-22, 2003 *** "You avoided my question. I asked you what evidence
do you have that the Gospels are FALSE! The burden of proof is on YOU to
prove the Gospels to be false. Christians don't have to PROVE
anything." "If the resurrection was false, the Jews and the
Romans would have proved it 1970 years ago (and there would be records to
that affect). No records exist, because the resurrection happened." "We see a lot of restoration miracles. I have heard
of reports of people who have had organs removed and then later on when
the doctor goes to take an xray, the body has regenerated those parts, or
God may have performed a restoration miracle." "I am here typing on my computer. I am thinking, so
therefore I must be created by an intelligent designer. Otherwise my
conscience wouldn't be here at this moment in time." "Its hard to talk to you on Biblical issues because I
feel you are only here to poke holes in our beliefs. Normally I don't feed
the trolls, but since hell is a place you will be so familiar with over
eternity, I though you should understand the consequences of being wrong
in your beliefs (or lack of them). Hell is a lake of fire, with no shores,
no islands, no way out. Those who go there (fallen angels, too), will burn
for eternity, the torment never stops, it never goes away, you will never
get used to it. I know this is just so much entertainment for you, now.
But death will come for you one day. And you will have to deal with what
is on the other side. By that time, your choices will have been made-it'll
be too late. If I am wrong I loose nothing. If you are wrong...well, I
told you so." "Hearing Pascal's Wager actually had a large impact
on my becoming a Christian... and Islam, imho, is a knockoff of
Christianity... the other religions either fall into Christian knockoffs
or Hindu knockoffs... and Hinduism supports dualism, which is logically
bankrupt..." "In the beginning according to science there was a
big bang. But also, there was a spinning beginning. The universe started
in a swirling motion and everything in the universe is a part of a
spinning motion. Even there is a theory that as things spin off of the big
bang, they expand in a swirling motion. Usually a clockwise motion. But
not everything. There are planets that spin counterclockwise. There are
moons that have counterclockwise orbits. There is even a whole galaxy that
marches to the beat of a different drummer and is swirling counter clock
wise. What theory does science have to explain this? Nothing, zip, zero,
zilch, nada. They have no explaination at all for this. What explaination
does creationism have for these seemingly backward spinning heavenly
bodies? Simple, in the beginning God knew that someone was going to come
up with a theory to try to disprove creationism. So God put a reverse spin
on parts of the universe, just to keep their theory from being so neat and
tidy." [After someone explains basic physics] "Ok,
what did they bounce off of so as to reverse their motion? Can you
demonstate to me that two spinning object can reverse their spin, by
crashing into each other?" "Yeah, right Evolution would not stand a chance if it
were not government funded. It is the only government funded religion
there is. It would die a quick death without government funding. Of course
indirectly it is promoted by the porno industry. Sense the ACLU is porno
funded, and evolution is a part of their godless agenda. Then don't forget
the gambling money from state run lotteries that supports the godless
agenda in our universities. Not that I am against the lottery, it does
help our collage students. At least Christians are self supporting and do
not have to tap the american tax payer to fund their religion. No one is
asked to support their agenda who does not agree with it. But they take
money out of my pocket to support the government endorsed religion of
evolution in our school systems. To purchase text books that promote
evolution and so forth." "So if someone says that the universe is 14 billion
years old, what exactly are they saying? Are we saying the earth has done
14 billion laps of the sun? No because the people who say the universe is
14 billion years old also say that for a lot of this time our solar system
wasn't even formed." "Ha ha ha, ohh, I can't believe you people are being
disolussioned like this! Are there not abnormailites in humans? We don't
treat all these abnormalities as reactivated evolution genes do we?
Anyways, I wouldn't believe that picture [with the X-ray of an atavistic
human tail, complete with vertebrae and nerve ganglia] unless I saw the
girl herself. Don't believe everything you see." "Darwin took truth and twisted it into a lie. A
common methoid of satan, you see it from the beginning. The Bible exposes
satan and all of his attempts at deception. That is why Darwin has been
proven to be false and the people he argued against have been proven to be
true. So followers of Darwin have had to replace Darwin's
"theory" with a modern post Darwinism or Neo-Darwinism." [After someone asks if he even read the Origin of
Species "I have not read that much of it, why would I need to?
There is enough Neo-Darwinism splattered all over the place that I would
not have to go back to the origional source. Sooner or later the truth and
the error are going to have to be seperated out." "Those who do not know God are by nature sons of the
devil. Satan is their father. When we are born again, we take on the
divine nature of God and we are once again made in His image as Adam was
before the fall. We then become son's of God." [To a Wiccan] "Your God and Goddess have done
a very poor job of making themselves known." "You are completely wrong in generalizing about
Christianity. You claim to have studied Christianity, but it is clear that
you haven’t really studied it, but rather 'studied' it by public
opinion, and such. If you were to really have studied Christianity, you
would know 'The Great Commission' where Jesus commanded His disciples to
'preach' to the entire world. Never was there anything about having to
convert anyone." "However, you'll never find a koala's offspring to
produce something different like a horse. You'll never find where a horse
evolved into a bee which evolved into a dog, which evolved into a
bat." "from...haha...rocks to frogs to horses to birds to
whales to apes to men. That's what evolution taught us in school." "There's plenty of *some evidence*: Hundreds,
thousands, of claims of the supernatural in the world throughout human
history; Consciousness; Free will; Concepts; Parsimony; Cosmological
argument considerations. No evidence? Wake up and smell the coffee: When
are you atheists going to stop ignoring the evidence? " "If God did not exist, why do we have the word in our
language?" [After someone says that his logic applies to old spy
novels as well] "OK James Bond is made up fiction but I just
wondered, if God did not exist, what would possess people say He does, let
alone worship Him." "What is it with the whole Christian/Catholic thing.
Never have i been so confused as when I asked someone if they were a
Christian and they replyed I'm a Catholic, I asked the same Question again
and i got a blank expression from the person I asked." "Ask about where the matter came from in the first
place and they'll claim cosmotology can't answer that question. ( No
duh!)" "Also, our feelings and wishes do not dictate
reality. Despite what we feel or think, God is real and that's a fact all
of us will have to deal with one day." "The theory of evolution teaches that living things
are becoming more complex as time progresses. Because the chromosomes in
living matter are one of the most complex bits of matter in the known
universe, it would seem logical to assume that organisms with the least
number of chromosomes were the first ones to evolve and those with the
most chromosomes are the end result of millions of years of evolution
experimenting to increase complexity in living organisms. From the chart,
it is "obvious" that we all started off as penicillium with only
2 chromosomes, and that we slowly evolved into fruit flies. After many
"millions of years" we turned into tomatoes (or house flies) and
so on, until we reached the human stage with 46 chromosomes. One of our
ancestors must have been one of the identical triplets—opossums, redwood
trees, and kidney beans—with 22 chromosomes each. If we are allowed to
"continue evolving" we may someday be tobacco plants and maybe
we may even become carp with 100, or maybe even the ultimate life form, a
fern with 480 chromosomes! Don’t you believe it! God made this world and
all life forms, as recorded in the Bible!" "If you mean by ficitional: a made-up story or
literature consisting of these. Then I say,get real! I'm only concerned on
reality(or at least what I believe)." "If you tell someone the truth, and they kill
themself...versus if you tell someone a lie and they live on some false
hope? Which is better for a productive society? Completely detached from
any religious views, couldn't it be advantageous for a government looking
to have productive citizens? I'm not saying it is or isn't...just the
possibility. If everyone believes that they are part of some higher plan,
I'm sure they will work and encourage much better than if they think that
their entire world is the product of natural forces." "Ya know....50 Billion years from now..I often wonder
what we'll be doing 50 Billion years after that....! .....But those folks
who go to hell won't have to wonder what they'll be doing...They'll be
doing the same thing all the time...! ...SUFFERING...!" "Atheism even has missionaries. Those missionaries
are on these boards right now!! They came into a board marked
"spiritual discussion" WHY?? What are they accomplishing? And
why are they trying to accomplish anything? If atheism is the lack of
belief in God, then why are they coming on to a board about
spirituality?" "The answer is that atheism is not only a belief in
no God..It is an agenda, an ORGANIZED effort to kill any sign of God..In
fact every year atheists ask for funding from the government...Oh ok, so
then you are a religion...Why do the heathen rage? What is making them so
angry? Why are they forcing God out of school? Why else would they come
onto these boards, blapheme God anyway they can, mock prayer request
threads(ahem..paul2), spit on the Bible, spit on faith, and generally hate
all organized religion?????" "Does anyone else not see the organization of this [atheist]
movement, do we not see the agenda in our schools, politics, and even some
churches." "One more thing that is always said by atheists is
"No one has ever been killed because of atheism." I beg to
differ..I believe that every death since the beginning of time was due to
atheism. Even the crusades...I believe every single solitary sin, even
little white lies, even by a Christian, is caused by atheism..." "Yes we have similar genetics to animals..but you
know what, our genes match rats more then they match apes..and we have
similar genes to that of house plants. You call it ancestry. I had no idea
my great, great, great, aunt was a cactus. meanwhile.. I have yet for you
to find somthing irrational about creationism." "However, you seem to have come up with the truely
stupid question regarding slavery today (where there's absolutely no
reason for it) and slavery back then (when there may have some need in
some ways)." [On humanist morality] "You say that if
something hurts someone, then it is wrong. You dont believe in God and
that hurts." "Although it's astonishing to me, it's not difficult
for God to convince a human of His exsistence, is it? He's God after all.
So, for example, if He wanted the Bible to be true, reliable and perfect,
it wouldn't be difficult for Him, would it? Admittedly, it would be
difficult for humans to maintain the integrity of scriptures over
thousands of years, but not for God. I realise this is a truism but that
doesn't mean it can't be true. Knowledge is more important than
information; but wisdom is more important than knowledge. In fact. I
predict that we'll soon start talking about Wisdom Technology or
Management, rather than information technology or knowledge management.
You heard it here first!" "Regarding the Big Bang, scientists tell us, 'The
emptiness is supposed to have gathered together in one place, and gotten
so thick that the 'nothing' exploded—and blew itself into hydrogen gas,
the laws of nature somehow invented themselves during the explosion, then
the outward exploding gas supposedly gathered itself into clumps and the
loose, outward flowing gas next decided to push itself into stars. Then
all the stars began exploding in super-nova explosions. But, just before
light rays from the explosions could reach our planet in our time in
history, the explosions are said to have conveniently stopped.'" "I believe that God spoke different things into
creation but not that a rock begat grass, which begat vegetables and
fruits, which begat apes, which begat humans, etc." "Please, don't take me as obnoxious or full of myself
or anything, but look at it this way... everyone has experiences in their
lives, say a child grows up in an abusive home and that somehow leads to
him meeting another person from an abusive home that is a christian, then
that first child ends up believing. Maybe the child's abusive father or
drunk mother or whatever were put here for no reason other than to give
their child that bad experience that would eventually come to God." "Look at that women who was just convicted for
killing her children [Andrea Yates, who drowned her kids after thinking
Satan would possess them if she didn't]. The excuse they use is the poor
little thing was stressed out and over worked. So she did not know what
she was doing. She had a post whatever depression, so she should not have
to be held accountable. The 'poor little thing' should have cried out to
God for help when she found herself in over her head. But instead she went
to man for help, and did not find any. Man will let you down, God never
will fail us." "The poor wouldn't be poor if they learned to listen
to Jesus, many lives have been changed." [On Catholicism] "Just because a person
believes something does not make it True." "I guess those scientists (pseudo-scientists- (1
Timothy|6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so
called) are pretty close - let's see they say 13.7 billion and yet since
Genesis 1:1 was less than 10,000 years ago that makes the scientists only
off by 13.6999 billion years - close but no cigar." [On the Big Bang] "And since this is still a
theory, it is in the unproven catagory. So in essence, it is also not
'concrete'." [Replying to 'do you have a single fact that proves the
Bible?'] "Yes, we are ALIVE and medical science doesn't have the
foggiest notion as to why?" "and it is also my opinion that in the end - whenever
that may be - everything will be revealed to us, INCLUDING why it is that
there is such a vast amount of knowledge that seems to contradict what the
Bible says. Until such time, I'll eagerly read scientific textbooks and
novels and Christian textbooks and novels, but I will run everything I
learn through that 'Biblical' filter. And as I've said a bunch of times
before, if that means I'm viewed as irrational by proponents of
science....well, I really don't give a red" "But can we test how love and "emotions"
came from nothing that exploded, then a primordial soup, etc etc. That is
not observable and science has no answer. Also the fact that all of life
has a common ancestor ("Big Bang speaking"). Maybe because i'm
an idiot, but does that mean that humans, vegetables, and rocks had to
have had the same ancestor??" "You do not know if dinos could breathe fire. You
have not seen a living dino and cannot see if it does or not. However, we
have the eyewitness account of those who did see dinos (the term was
dragon then though) and say they did breathe fire (who knows? Maybe breath
hot enough to cause flamables to burst into flames?). These people were
not only Christians/Jews in the Bible, but from many other cultures as
well." [Replying to 'Well, let's see, since no airplane, rocket, or satellite has ever plowed into this 'storehouse' [of snow mentioned in Job, I think it's safe to assume that it's not just me who says it, but basic observable reality itself. Why do you believe this?] "Because to answer God's question to Job, no, I am not smart enough to pretend to know where this is. And like it or not, neither are you or any scientist." [Replying to 'Do you mean to tell me, then, that
somewhere up there, there are storehouses of snow, even though no one has
seen them, and all known climatalogical science goes against it?'] "I
didn't say that, God said that. I just believe Him." [When someone says he can't be serious about literal
'storehouses of snow' above the upper atmosphere] "No, I'm not
joking. You say they aren't there because we can't find them. I say we
cant find them because they are supernatural. Same as the Space shuttle
having never bumped into heaven in orbit. You see the physical result of
the supernatural [i.e., snow]." [Continuing on the 'storehouses of snow'] "God
says so. That's enough for me. I didn't say I had to understand it, see it
or be able to prove it. God is way smarter than I am, I can't tell you all
He knows." [Replying to 'why aren't you arguing against the
hydrological cycle?'] "Because I believe this "hydrological
cycle" is what we physically can observe of snow but there is a
supernatural, yet required element we cannot observe as well." "Oh and one more thing Joseph Smith is a False Prohit
he predicted he would live until he was 85 and that Jesus would come back
in his lifetime - well he died before he was 85 and Jesus hasn't been back
- you draw your own conclusions!" "He [Jesus] wants everything. Your mind, your
body, and your soul. He won't settle for anything less." "Explain to me exactly in your own words why the atom
can stay together and why the electrons do not crash into the nucleus. I'm
asking this because there seems to be a general refusal of any visitation
to any of MY links to Dr. Dino and such. If you had actually gone to his
website to seek for your answers, you may have actually learned
something." "Why would anyone wish to be an atheist? You have
absolutely no hope beyond the grave... nor do your children! What a
frightening thought! All you have to look forward to is eternity in the
grave. My life has meaning and purpose beyond that which I place on it.
You cannot say the same for your lives. My life is eternal, yours is
temporary. There is a Supreme Being who has a plan for my future, you have
nobody and no future and you spend hours here waisting what time you have
left. I will never understand the atheist mindset?" "as for DNA, God created DNA as a way for us to
regulate our own bodies. he may have put that centromere remnant on the
23rd chromosome [exactly matching two fused ape chromosomes, like
evolution predicts] as a simple test of faith: whether or not you believe
that God put us here in the first place." "On the point of multiple religions. Have you ever
compared other religions to Christianity? Did you know the Bible has yet
to be found in error?" "Lets take the second most prominent religion on
Earth, Islam, and compare. The sacred books for Islam is the Koran and
Hadith. There are numerous errors in both books for example 3 or 4 ways
that Allah said how he created the first humans." "So, to make a long story short, 42 'kids' sought out
Elijah as he was ascending to Heaven, and mocked God and Elijah's ascent
into Heaven. All Elijah did was pronounce God's curse on the kids. God
chose to send 2 bears to kill them. Now, I won't defend God, because,
well, God is God, and I don't think He needs 'defending.' But this to me
doesn't exactly sound like God slaughtered 42 people just because a kid
threw a pebble and called Elijah 'baldy.' It sounds more like God
pronounced His judgment upon people who mocked Him and His prophet." "I give up trying to witness to people... Maybe it
wasn't put in the best context but i was trying to point something out
quite simply - a holy righteous book from Islam's god talking about peeing
in someones ear, passing gas, supporting Jihad, beating women, spending
paradise having sex with women and young boys etc. You can look for all
the Islamic apologetics you want - a holy god would not condone that
disgusting behavior." "My evolution vs creation education comes from the
fact that I have a degree in Old Testament history and eschatology and
have studied this for 30 years." "I have thoroughly studied the ATOM and have a
Master's degree in physics and chemistry. Because of that, I can honestly
tell you that the existance of the ATOM itself is proof beyond a shadow of
a doubt that God created it. Evolution, as it is taught is public schools,
is atheistic evolution and we all know it... that the ATOM is a product of
random chance and nothing more. After studying the ATOM I know that it can
never be a product of random chance, but that of intelligent design. My
study of atomic engery and the atom qualifies me to argue against
atheistic evolution... which is what is taught to our school children in
public schools." "I will strike at the heart of the matter and state
that the atheistic position is just sickening. Some, or even most, may
have and abide by good morals, but that isn't the point. To follow by a
belief that would allow you to go out and murder, char, rape, and even
molest kids and, then, regarding those actions just as much good as bad is
just sickening and cannot be denied that it isn't sickening." "God cannot be a criminal. He is not bound by any
laws. I understand that you may not like God's past and present actions
but thats life buddy, deal with it." *** Post of the Month for February 2003 *** "We have a few slight problems when it comes to the
idea that every Israelite from all time will be raised and will be saved.
The first problem is that the Pharisees committed the one sin that Jesus
said would never be forgiven of them-- these people were full-out
biological Jews. (THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN BEING SAYING JESUS WAS THE
INCARNATION OF EVIL RATHER THAN THE SON OF GOD, AS BEING A JEW IS A
BLESSING FROM GOD)." [Editor's note: an email from the author of this post dated July 27, 2003 stated: "I must admit that I laughed quite hard when I read this. It makes it look like I think that the 'unforgivable sin' is being a biological Jew. That's not what I meant at all. The unforgivable sin is basically saying that Jesus was the incarnation of the devil rather than of God. The pharisees were simply an example of a 'biological jew' that had done this. In no way do I believe that being Jewish is a sin. I can see how that paragraph makes me look and I would appreciate it if you would correct this now that you know it's a misrepresentation and include my clarification. I've edited my post on rr-bb.com with a similar clarification." The post above was also updated to reflect this clarification. Readers are, however, left to make their own decisions as to whether this makes any more sense than the original.] [On Hinduism] "I don't really understand what you're
saying. But all I know is that God wasn't an 4 armed fat baby. It didn't
say it in the Bible so..........." [After someone says he's probably 13] "NO, I am 14
jackass. And NO, I did not get that from my pastor, i don't go to church.
And by the way, Hinduism, Buddism, Islam, All of the other religions that
aren't about the God, and Jesus, are just lies made up by the Devil." "i cant stand fags. ive been hit on by a fag before
and i darn near knocked him unconscience. homosexuality is way
wrong." "Look, Hitler was a man like us, he had no right to
do what he did, however, God created us, therefore we belong to Him and He
alone can do hatever He wants with us." "im very sorry if you find me to be hostile and
offensive with my words, *** Post of the Week for February 9-15, 2003 *** [Defending Bible-endorsed slavery] "Always taking
things out of context, eh WinAce? After all, if beating as a punishment
for some action can be applied to freemen then there really is no
difference between the freeman and the slave." "After all, we are not so primitive now a days. What
was that divorce rate again? 50 percent? Of course we would not want to
sacrifice the 1 percent that stir people up and cause all the problems.
Much better a 50 percent divorce rate. Let the bad apples live to corrupt
the rest of the barrel." "Did you ever do a study on the spikenard that Mary
annointed the body of Jesus with before he was crucified? It is a very
expensive pain killer that cost about $216 a pound if you get it on sale.
Maybe back then it would have cost even more. Although $216 was a lot of
money back then." "My thinking does not go beyond the Bible or as you
say "outside of the Book of Holy Quotes". I am perfectly happy
and content with that. We are locked in with God and that is just were we
want to be. We have no desire for anything outside of that or beyond what
we find in the written word of God." [To a poster named Sundragon2012] "I usually don't
talk to satan. To a Christian dragon means satan. So that is most likely
why I tend to skip over your posts." [On God ordering the ancient Hebrews to kill all,
including children] "God has emotions, he chose to act on them, he
promised he would throw down his wrath and he did, he can't lie. "Because the evil ways would be passed from
generation to generation and the cycle wouldn't be broken unless *all* the
people were killed. The children would learn from their parents, and so on
and so on." "God made the rules. He didn't say I will never kill
anybody or inspire people to kill for me. "I wasn't there and I'm not God, so I can't say. Well
I can say it does seem harsh, and it isn't something I would approve of as
a human, no. "There must be a reason he says all will be revealed
when it's time. "The terrorists in the middle east believe that they
have a standing order to kill unbelievers from Allah (through the Koran).
The Jews in the Bible got specific orders from God to kill individual
groups. "The God of the Bible is very different from the
other gods at that time. God always had a moral justification for war,
rather than other gods didn't need that justification." [Grudgingly talking about the atheist majority on the
forum] "There is so much evil in here that a lot of christians just
do not bother to come to this forum anymore." "ROFL!!! "O.k these dinosars which continuously evolved into
man some how just died supposedly by temp. changes and land changes but
how did these things keep on evolveing if they "ALL" went
exstinct. Because no book says half lived and evolved and the other half
surpriseingly lived yeah O.k they all died but they still evolved im not
getting what your saying" "I must say I don't approve of racial slurs when used
in a nasty fashion, although racial epitaths are very funny in good clean
joke form - Irish, German, white, black, whatever... "Considering that most of science has only been
around for a few hundred years, while religion has thousands of years
under its belt, I don't think there is any competition. "What difference does it make in the long run or even
the short run for that matter if we enslave men, or steal things that we
need? If I need something and there is no God to punish me for anything
then you can bet that I'm going to just take what I need, because I'm
going to do what feels good to me at the time. Without God laws are based
on feeling, what feels right to me, what feels right to you, and you have
no right to tell me what is right for me, you are just another accidental
animal." "lol..like it really matters wheather you feel like
something or not, you are nothing w/o God, I am nothing w/o God. It's nice
that you have convinced yourself that anything you do good really matters,
it's nice that you think you know what good is, good for you is not good
for me, and good for me is not the same as someone else. Obviously good
for Hitler and Pol Pot wasen't good for the Jews, but what does it matter,
WE ALL DIE!! but until you are able to conquer death then anything you do
on earth matters not, if there is no God." "Every single NON-BELIEVING, Secular scientist who
has set out to prove evolutionary theory has come to the same conclusion:
The Universe Was CREATED. It is a mathematical fact. "I cannot believe that you could close your eyes to
the scientists from EVERY discipline who submit their substantiated
findings on a ~daily~ basis through numerous, and various, media outlets
that (1)Disprove evolutionary theory and establish the fossil record as
evidence of Creation, (2)wonder aloud why the debunked and erroneous
carbon dating is still being utilized, and (3)state that the very
existence and quandary of the "missing link" disqualifies
evolution as a "theory" in the first place. [On miscarriage] "Well, if you think about it, that's
probably the BEST thing, as far as the baby goes, because he/she goes
straight from the womb to heaven for eternity." "Here's an example of a prediction based on
information from the Bible. The lifespan of people before the flood was up
to and above 900 years. Even if you eliminate cavities, our teeth tend to
wear down, rot, or break over a period of about 100 years. If God designed
us to live up to 900 years or more, one would expect that God would have
either designed our teeth to be stronger or designed us to get new teeth. [Repeating the 10%
brain use myth] "If we were designed to live 900 years, one would
expect to find unexplainable anomalies in our understanding of the human
body, becase we're only seeing a small snapshot of what the body was
designed to do or handle. "In addition, if you extrapolate the accumulation of
certain minerals in the human body over 100 years to a longer lifespan,
the body would become poisoned by these minerals at age 300. Our body has
no known means of eliminating these minerals. However, it is my hypothesis
that the appendix is an organ that is designed to 'wake up' every 300
years and eliminate these toxic minerals." "Why should natural selection choose one organism to
survive and reproduce and not another?" "Those Christians who do not accept creation have
been brainwashed by the school system to believe a bunch of lies. There is
no evidence for evolution, however there is very much evidence for
creation." "There are no contradictions in the Bible, different
people simply wrote them different ways." "As i've read through all these forums, all you
evolutionists seem to have different stories, or different
"proven!" theories, and ya'll all just basically prove eachother
wrong by going on about what you think you know. atleast all us
creationists have our facts down right and know what we believe and don't
help prove our beliefs wrong." "to bad I'm not talking about tuberculosis, do some
reading (Im not talking about websites) on the subject and you'll
understand that becoming immune [to antibiotics] isn't evolution. Sort of
how we become immune to the chicken pox after getting it, or gaining the
same immunity from your mother after you are born." *** Post of the Week for February 2-8, 2003 *** "I'm just using this as a clear example of the kind
of deception that is happening in the Roman Catholic Church. "There is much scientific evidence of a world-wide
flood. You can't ignore the evidence." [Replying to 'Can he make a square circle?'] "If God
is omnipotent, then the answer to these questions is yes. God, the
inventer of logic, is not bound by what He created (just as I, an artist,
am not bound to create my artwork the same way every time - I am the
creater, not bound the the constructs of my artwork)." [Replying to 'Can God make a rock so heavy he cannot lift
it?'] "Not only can God create the unliftable rock, but He could also
lift it. Again, why could He not? If your answer is simply because it does
not make sense, then you are right in the effect that it seems to not make
sense. However, by doing so you are trying to restrict God to the level of
your intellect (and I grant your intellect is quite impressive, but not
equal to God's)." "No human being was there when the earth was created.
There are no 'first hand accounts'. The only first hand account that we
have to go by is the Bible." "Carbon dating has a circular logic that tries to
prove archeology with geology then geology with archeology. It is
unreliable considering +or- 1 million years to be good. If carbon dating
is what you are basing your agnostic beliefs on then you should
reconsider" [After someone explains carbon dating doesn't work on
things over 50,000 years old] "Well, When I was in high school, back
in the 80s, the carbon dating method was used to destroy my faith in Jesus
Christ. Whether or not it is used today for dating 50000 years out. So now
its known not to work so well on those ~5 million year old fossils." "The problem with psychology is that it looks to man
for the solution rather than God, and reduces behavior and human problems
to functions of chemicals in the body. It is inherantly anti-supernatural
and skeptical." "Medicine was doing fine before Darwin. What great
advances occurred because of the evolutionary thinking? Aren't humans
beyond the reach of natural selection anyway?" "We know that an atom is composed of protons and
electrons. If the protons are positive and the electrons are negative,
then what keeps the electrons from crashing into the positively charged
nucleus. If the nucleus is completely made of positive material, what
holds it together? Wouldn't it fly apart because of the like charges. We
know that gluons don't because they have never been observed or measured.
How would they hold the atoms together anyway, no force is really strong
enough to keep electrons away from the nucleus or to keep the nucleus
together. That is, except the power of god. [After someone explains the Strong Nuclear Force]
"Seems like a pretty good arguement to me. Like I said, gluons have
never been observed, measured, or proven to exist. They were made up by
Athiests to try to explain the phenomina of why the nuclei stay together.
Gluons do not exist." "And why, may I ask, do you think the atom does not
collapse or the nucleus doesn't fly apart" "None of you seem to know the answer. So I will have
to properly inform you. If anyone here thinks they know the answer, then
say it. In Colossians 1:17, it says that Jesus holds all things together.
Its the only thing that makes sense. Think about it. You don't know the
answer, yet the answer is before you. It is Jesus that holds everything
together. I've given you my answer which is completely logical." "Bush's proposal is justified, even if it is first
strike, as Iraq jeopardizes world peace. "All of you 'former Christians' turned Atheist are
weak minded, and weak souled. You won't find real Christians turning away
from God because some Message Board dork tells them to." [On an early flood legend predating Genesis by centuries]
"How about a link to this Gilgamesh argument, I'm sure we can explain
it away." "I saw a documentary on the History Channel where
they thought the Bible was a series of alien visitations. Moses went into
a spaceship on the mountain and brought out the ten commandments and when
Jesus was on the hill during the transfiguration the aliens came back and
visited (you know Moses and Elijah because they had to be aliens too for
it to make sense). Fine intelligent programming for people who would
rather believe that aliens created or developed our race than have to come
to grips with the facts." "Without God there is no moral code, there is no
basis for what's right and wrong, and good and evil are
interchangable." "Why do you continue to believe propaganda?" "And you're right, if there is no God, then there is
no reason for the universe. We would be a cosmic accident and by all
standards we would be insignifgant nothings. Which means we are still no
better then worms, which means Hitler, Pol Pot and Sadaam Hussein have
done nothing wrong." "I just took a college class called "Music In
World Cultures". Some of what we discussed dealt with how tribal and
religious cultures use music in their spiritual rituals. Some work
themselves into a frenzy, and eventually go into trance...or more
appropriately labeled, possession." "I believe that miracles of other probably religious
do happen, but not nessicarily because they're God ordained. Jesus said he
was the only way to the Father. So, the way I see it, TRUE miracles only
come from him." "Simply put, it is not possible to believe in YHWH
and in His prophets without believeing in the diety of Jesus." "Was just wondering, you know the muscle that holds
your pee in, did that muscle evolve. Was there a time when there was no
muscle there and everyone just went to the toilet where they were
standing."
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