Fundies Say the Darndest Things! December 2002 Edition
Last Updated April 23, 2002



"Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"


"I do not trust Democrats. They engage in voter fraud, rip down yard signs, vandalize cars that have critical bumber stickers and lie all the time in order to institute their long-term goals of creating a socialist pagan nation."
- Randalll, ChristianForums


"Here you show one difference in Liberal vs. Realistic thinking. Any intentional abuse of a child is TOTALLY the "offshoot" of mean-spirited, unreligious and bigoted parent(s)."
- bringmedinner, Yahoo! News Message Boards


"And yes, Pokemon is very evil. Nearly destroyed my life way back when it was 'cool.'"
- TwoFacedSoul, PayableOnDeath BBS


"pokemon=pocket monter . I don't see good morals in it, so I don't even let my child watch it."
- shygirl79, PayableOnDeath BBS


[On Charles Darwin's supposed deathbed conversion recounted by Lady Hope] "I would rather image that Darwin was a nice guy. Maybe because he did not yell and scream and throw a fit and throw the Christian women out, she took this as evidence of his conversion."
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"I don't think it [hell] is in the center of the Earth but it is odd how geologists say that the middle of the eart is molton rock with other minerals such as sulfer or "Brimestone" when at the time the Bible was written they did not know that."
- Plutoboy, PayableOnDeath BBS


"it's interesting to note that ALL stars, no matter where they are in relation to the earth, show red shift, indicating they are moving away from the earth. does this mean the earth really IS the center of the universe?"
- Christan4Israel, RaptureReady


"I would suggest, a) The Universe and b) The Resurrection of Jesus. There is no better explanation than the fact that "God Did It"!"
- Tarmac, PayableOnDeath BBS


*** Post of the Week for December 29-January 4, 2002 ***

"Lastly, God simply made man in His image, and He has a beard. I'm not sure what a beard signifies, but I cannot think of any evolutionary explanation for why human females would find men with beards to be more attractive"
- Douglas, Access Research Network


"Jesus is waving his hands in front of your face and you still can't see him. God dosen't call down fire like he did in the OT...he sent Jesus.....And that isn't enough for you?"
- inverter, PayableOnDeath BBS


"If no evolutionary pathway can be envisioned this should be a point for creationism. Sure, evolutionists may come up with a plausible scenario -- they're good at that -- but as it stands this is a decent argument against and should be tallied for the creationists."
- Faith, EvC Forum


"i think bigfoot & the yeti are just undiscovered gorillas.
Loch ness monster=dinosaur. again undiscovered dinosaur that survived the flood. dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible, chief amoung creation. dinosaurs and man lived at the same time. easily explained!"
- TonkaTruck, RaptureReady


"We don't allow anything having to do with Harry Potter at our house.

I am amazed at my Christian friends who see nothing wrong with the books. It's usually the "At least they're reading" attitude.

If a child doesn't like to eat, but chooses to ingest arsenic, does the parent say, "Well, at least he's eating!"???"
- Leigh, RaptureReady


"Harry Potter is just re-packaged new age witchcraft. Christians in general need to open their eyes to world around them and see what really is going on behind the agenda's of Harry Potter. It's all rather sinster like Halloween. Sure you get candy but what are we celebrating is the issue! Let's make a stand---Harry Potter is just candy coated witchcraft, that if not kept in check by the Christian moral majority, can and has run amok when good Christians say nothing."
- blondydog, RaptureReady


"I know kids that have been influenced by Harry Potter. They have joined cults out of the ideas they got from HP. They have witnessed demonic things, after reading the books.

Satan is tricky. Satan is also smarter than we are. He knows how to blindside us. Harry Potter is one of his latest tools."
- WingShire, RaptureReady


"There are also those who have no faith in God, who might, who could be influenced to swing the other way into the appealing lifestyle of a warlock, or a witch like on 'Charmed'."
- WingShire, RaptureReady


"Bad news: now my mom says J.R Tolkien's LOTR is demonic! Huh? He's a Christian for crying out loud! But my mom says that the stuff she saw in the preview are demonic. I have to admit, Nigerians are very superstitious. I agree HP is demonic but LOTR? NO! B4 you know it, she'll start saying Chronicles of Narnia by C.S Lewis is demonic."
- Booboo, RaptureReady


"Bigfoot was to evolutionist as the Loch ness is to creationist. For years many evolutionist thought of bigfoot as the missing link that was seal off from all other humans keeping it from evolving. And for years the Lochness monster was considered to be the final proof that dinosuars and humans lived together. But now many evolutionists will have to give up on bigfoot, while creationists still have a chance with the lochness."
- Deaga, RaptureReady


"I guess I don't understand why you (collectively) find it so easy to believe that aliens suck people out of their homes aboard flying saucers for weird experiments yet cannot believe that God created the earth in six days."
- tuco22, RaptureReady


"Catholics are not Christians but at best Christians-in-becoming and once they become Christians they will no longer be Catholic because the religion itself will be like satan to them ("get thee behind me satan")."
- Amos, Internet Infidels


"So God killed 42 kids, how many has Mao killed?"
- Jiggles, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Fact is homosexuals are sick and twisted, child molesting perverts. There is no gene which causes the affliction of homosexuality and since this article was posted almost four years ago the fact still remains, HOMOSEXUALS ARE PIGS. A scourge upon the face of the earth. An ABOMINATION in the eyes of God, man and nature.

Keep them away from your children."
- Eric, VoyForums


"Fags are still sick and twisted child molesting, disease ridden perverts.
This is a truth and no court in the world will convict me for speaking it.

Now, if you have evidence to the contrary then, and only then will you be able to make a case that I am either slandering the perverts or liable."
- Eric, VoyForums


*** Post of the Week for December 22-28, 2002 ***

[Replying to 'what if you contracted HIV from a needle?'] "I do not get sick timmie and all the hypotheses you conjure up will not change this fact.

I am a son of God and I have victory over all manner of sin and sickness and, IF I WAS to contract some horrible disease I wouldn't be turning to "science" to cure me but instead repenting for not being who and what I am in Christ and choosing rather to receive the perfect manifest health Jesus Christ died to give me.

I do not knowingly go out and sin and when guilty of occasionally dropping the ball I don't do as the perverts do and try to justify my indiscretion... I repent and confess the sin as sin.

Fags are not accidentally contracting Hepatitis and AIDS. They willingly go out and expose themselves to these and many other diseases.
So no timmie, I won't be hunting down and paying for any research or drugs to try to help me overcome the disgusting diseases."
- Eric, VoyForums


"Besides, the fags have taken
one of God's covenants with man (the Rainbow) and perverted it.

It's a shame but they know no shame."
- Eric, VoyForums


"I think making love should be saved for marriage and only to make children. Inbetween our children, we have tried very hard to abstain. It's been nearly 9 months since our 4th son Malachi was born. Sex is for animals, love making for children in marriage."
- PaultheBall, ChristianBBS


"But give up the thought of convincing evolutionists of their errors. The Bible says that those who deny the obvious evidence that God has provided in creation are fools without an excuse. He said also that because of the hardness of their heart, God gave them over to delusion and to think in depraved thinking patterns. (See Romans chapter 1). In light of this, it is silly to even attempt to demonstrate truth to such people."
- Tom Bear, ChristianBBS


"Why don't you prove that God did not create the universe. Then you could collect the $250,000 [Hovind] reward."
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"If you were to present Charles Darwin with the discoveries we have made involving the increased complexity of his original theory, he would even realize his mistake. The man was having a spiritual crisis at the time. Some of his ideas were right, I will admit, but he was really grasping for some new concepts to help himself out. He's not the one who came out and said that we all evolved from monkeys. He's just a poster boy for evolutionists."
- mmanubeckm7, EvC Forum


"of course he is worthy of worship. he is the Mighty One, the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords, he's the wonderful one. if ne thing, u should just worship him out of pure fear of his wrath."
- human_torch8406, PayableOnDeath BBS


"To the contrary, the Bible DOES speak of them. It does not call them “dinosaurs” because the word “dinosaur” was made up over 200 years after the Bible was written."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


"You are right, Catholics say that they don't believe that they are worshipping Mary, but the fact is, they are. It just takes a non Catholic to be able to see it, because non Catholics don't wear Catholic colored glasses."
- cheezit, RaptureReady


"Here come the deluge of responses saying "It's not worship! We're just honoring Mary".

I wonder if we can apply that same logic to, say, adultery? Just call it something else like "making someone happy". It's not a sin to make someone happy, is it? Plus we can just ignore the commandment for adultery like we did the one for idolatry. It's win-win!"
- Don, RaptureReady


"You worship her. You just call it veneration, homage and respect.

But, in fact, you WORSHIP her."
- Lordschild, RaptureReady


"The whole "praying to Mary is just like asking for another person to pray for you" is a deception that is dumped upon you by your church. I know it's hard to accept if you grew up in it, but you have to examine who is teaching you and examine what they are teaching."
- Don, RaptureReady


"Praying to someone who is dead is necromancy. Necromancy is divination. The bible says that folks who do that have familiar spirits. Interesting, huh?"
- Chrystalwuzhere, RaptureReady


*** Post of the Month for December 2002 ***

"I gotta tell you that if you write a book claiming all the things the B[ook of ]M[ormon] claims and none of the claims outside the church founded by the author of the BM can be substantiated, the validity of the document is very suspect. This is down right fiction. Only a charlatan, liar, fraud, maniac or demon would write a book claim it to be a revelation of G-d and not be able to prove anything in the book."
- JimB, RaptureReady


"Joseph Smith prophesied that the [Church of]L[atter]D[ay]S[aints] would build a temple in Independence, MO, within one generation. Early Mormon apostles and prophets understood and taught that this would occur within the lifetime of those living when the prophecy was made. The temple has still not been built. Some LDS now claim that "generation" was a figurative term."
- JimB, RaptureReady


"I am the principal of a Christian School. A child in our second grade asked her teacher about "Santa". The teacher told her that "Santa" was a fairy tale not to be confused with Jesus who was not.
The next day the parents were in contact with me about disallusioning their child.
What was especially enlightening was when the parent expressed alarm when the child asked her "What else have you lied to me about?"
- Loren B, BaptistBoard


"The only thing that proves is there are many Biblical teachings about Jesus that satan has mimicked via "santa claus".

1)His white hair like wool.
2)Has a beard.
3)Comes in red apparel.
4)Hour of his coming is a mystery.
5)Is a carpenter.
6)Comes as a thief in the night.
7)Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent
8)Ageless, eternal
9)Giver of gifts.
10)Sits on a throne.
11)Wants little children to come to him.
12)Judges
...and there is so much more! Satan/santa is leading adults and children away from Jesus. Ask any child what christmas is really about."
- GrannyGumbo, BaptistBoard


"(dont be fooled by your preconcieved notion of what a unicorn is)
Most mythical stories see a unicorn as a horse with a horn, but it cannot be prove that this is the proper representation of said animal. Some dinos have horns on their head (triceratops) and I believe there is one [a rhino] that has a single horn."
- Tribtime, RaptureReady


"And how is it that you know a rhino isnt a dinosaur?"
- Tribtime, RaptureReady


"Ok Leon, I don't get it. A defendant is innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. So God exists until He is proven not to exist. Making Sense....... You just contradicted yourself with your own example. Poorly put."
- Wegs, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Scripture is my ultimate criterion because it is the Word of God. How do I know that it’s the Word of God? Because the Bible says so. I’m well aware that this is a circular argument. I am appealing to Scripture to argue for its own authority."
- Ku Bop, Internet Infidels


[On miracles from other religions] "The Scriptures are clear that Satan and his demons are real, and that they are deceivers. They have the power to manipulate men and the elements in order to cause miracles and religious experiences for people of other faiths, all for the purpose of taking glory away from the Lord God."
- Ku Bop, Internet Infidels


"Well proving the existence of Hell will always be impossible, but i guess my thought path goes something like:

suppose God is true >> suppose then that the Bible must be true >> Suppose then that Hell exists

not in reverse order.

And also the fact that theres all that magma downstairs and geothermal energy, so i suppose it wouldnt be a very nice place to be."
- Frivolous, Internet Infidels


"Maybe eternity is the instant before we really die. From the viewpoint of our own cognitive awareness this isnt too hard to believe. Since time and space are one and the same then maybe the eternity we endure before we really die is experienced as an endless expanse of space. But what are we? Fundamentally speaking, we are mass and since mass is energy then it is well possible that Hell can fit a lot of people and be able to continually burn them.

I have not been drinking.

I heard that in Hell people eat each other. Therefore your soul flesh (the flesh you wear when you are in Hell) probably grows back at a very fast rate, seeing as you would die if you lost all your flesh. This means that you can constantly be burned while not becoming numb to the fire because the new flesh regrowth would have new nerve endings."
- Frivolous, Internet Infidels


 "In the Bible is an account of the creation of the universe, the significant portion of which could not have been recorded without God Himself relaying the information to the initial recorder."
- Asahel, PayableOnDeath BBS


*** Post of the Week for December 15-21, 2002 ***

"Of course I know people have different religious and spiritual beliefs. Isn't that what I was talking about? But now you are getting into absolute truth. Just cause you believe something doesn't make it true. You have no basis for your beliefs, they are just what you believe. I have God on my side."
- Wegs, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Christian, do you believe it is harmful for Christian parents to play the game of "Santa Claus" with their children? Of whom I so fervently refer to as SATAN CLAWS."
- DeadMan Walking, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Santa Claus is a child's nightmare that has been agrivated by the rapid demonic threshhold we all call Xmas!

Christmas=Baby Jesus being born and forever ruleing over Heaven and earth at the right hand of God.

Xmas=Satan in a red suit with furry trim causing department stores to expload with sales and pretending to be the good fat jolly sesonal moral giver!"
- aLonENoMoRE, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Jesus didn't condemn slavery on the basis that it was considered normal by Jews and allowed by God. In fact, slavery wasn't even condemned by slaves. They were fed, clothed, given a bed and released after 7 years. Only in todays society is slavery seen as being wrong."
- King Russ, PayableOnDeath BBS


"I know that I was asked to remove my signature which said 'DARWINS MOTHER WAS AN ASS' by the moderators which kinda pissed me off, but it's not mysite so I did what I was asked."
- dkb, PayableOnDeath BBS


"See, it is a well known fact that fags can't reproduce without molesting and corrupting innocent little boys (girls in the lesbians case) and left to their own devices they will kill themselves off with their promiscuity and filthy sex habits within a very short period of time.

Now my wish is that they would repent for their sin but most seem to desire putting the rest of us in danger by spreading their diseases through whatever means necessary to encourage further participation from those of us who otherwise wouldn't give a rat's rear about what they do."
- Eric, VoyForums


"Is Legosexuality a Sin?

I saw a dog once that had a "Leg Orientation" since he would hump a person's leg. Sexual desires are a result of reproducing! The Dog had no "Leg Orientation"! He was a normal Dog who acted by nature to do that which he was designed to do which is to Reproduce! He couldn't ever reproduce by doing such but in his mind he just satisfied his desires. The same as humans masturbate today. So if then the dog could be taught by the media and the propaganda of today then the dog could then start believing that he was born this way. So he then would say to himself. I was born different. I am a Legosexual!"
- Marty Lineberry, VoyForums


"Just because it may also be "enjoyable" does not mean that a husband and wife are allowed to have sex with the use of contraceptives just for the "enjoyment" of it, as they are not allowing procreation to occur, so it is a sin.

Same thing goes for any sexual act that is not done with the intent to have a child."
- A Sheep, ChristianForums


"The constitution was intended to protect religion from Government. It is plan to see that the court system is not standing behind the constitution, because they are not protecting the rights of Christians in the school system."
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"They [the Supreme Court] stay as far away as they can from the congress and the senete, when they make stupid decisions like that. It is time to put this check and balance thing to work and get the legislative brance to get the judical branch back under control.

Or maybe just admit that mans attempt to form a Government just plain does not work, and it is time to seek after God and to follow HIS Government."
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"I use to live in the Milwaukee area a few years back, and witnessed homo-sexuals walking and other things in public, and on the streets in broad daylight.

A deplorable sight and very embarrassing for my children to witness such abominations."
- Justified, BaptistBoard


[On the origin of the universe] "No one (mankind) knows what happened. The only documentation we have is the Bible."
- Valerie412, RaptureReady


"I'll say one thing for the guy [Joseph Smith]. He had a heck of a vivid imagination. Not accurate, truthful or consistent, but vivid non-the-less.

I can't believe that someone could actually buy into this garbage."
- cheezit, RaptureReady


"if evolution were true then where did the bible come from?"
- billywhitebread, RaptureReady


"Atheism is just made up. Its not real."
- hercules1, PayableOnDeath BBS


"im sorry for saying this...no im not. but being gay is just sick and nasty. uggghhggg."
- punkrocker71, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Whether or not homosexuals can experience 'true love'... I don't know. How do you know that? I tried to look up some Bible passages on love but I couldn't find anything. So much for that."
- King Russ, PayableOnDeath BBS


"LaVey is bullshit. i used to be far from what i am now....and i bought both the satanic bible and the satanic rituals (which i gladly threw away about 6 months ago..) and that is all garbage...he is telling people...gullible people....his own vision of this..and its crap....who ever follows that book is being played for a fukin dummie....i feel for those who give in to that nonsense.."
- tribalsinner, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Against my sanity, I'll respond.

The number of people that believe there is no God is infinitesimally small compared to those that do. Therefore, the burden of proof is you."
- lrssms, Sean Hannity Discussion Forum


"This is exactly why, no matter how hard the U.S tries to control terrorism, no matter how hard they try to gain oil and take control, they will miserably fail (and they will spend a lot of money on it, just like what’s happening now, and there money shall be spent in vain). The Bible is the truth. It’s very consistent with what’s happening right now, and if we don’t repent, something really bad is going to happen to the U.S (whether they like it or not)."
- Bettawrekonize, CreationTalk


"The information in the Bible came from GOD (that’s why it’s so accurate). Are you calling GOD a moron? GOD says that if the people repent, he will spare the world of all the horrors he said he would put upon it. It’s people like you that are causing all the problems in the world. Too many people refuse to repent, and you’re going to learn the hard way that everything in the Bible is true."
- Bettawrekonize, CreationTalk


"I forgot the verse, but the Bible does mention that people will try to prove evolution. They’re trying very hard, may I add. They would lie, spend a lot of money, mix up bones, put together fake parts to say they evolved, etc..."
- Bettawrekonize, CreationTalk


"For many years they have been doing this, and for many years Christians have been pointing out the mistakes the scoffers make (of course they cover it up). Each time the scoffers would simply try harder to make a skull that can convince people. Now with all the genetic engineering we have, we can finally prove evolution? I doubt it, I think those skulls that are trying to prove evolution are made in a laboratory. Look how new they look, if they were about 2.4 million years old, wouldn’t they have decomposed by now (or at least look a little older than they look?)."
- Bettawrekonize, CreationTalk


"I'm sorry, but most people are brain washed by these lies because most people lack common sense (and are way too gullible). We are lied to about everything. Open your eyes and see the light. Look at the evidence."
- Bettawrekonize, CreationTalk


"I recently seen on the news that if you donate your money to telemarketers, who claim that money is going to the needy, only about six percent (if your lucky) of the money that you donate actually goes to the needy (the rest of it goes to rich people who don’t deserve it)."
- Bettawrekonize, CreationTalk


"Enjoy your cognitive dissonance, and don't forget to request to be buried in an asbestos suit."
- Evolskeptic, CreationTalk


"I'd say the earth is in pretty good shape for a billion year-old planet. When you consider the damage that meteors, natural disasters, etc. would have caused the planet over billions of years, it's reasonable to conclude that the earth is probably much younger than that."
- Galaxy70, CreationTalk


[Trying to explain transitional fossils] "My science teacher told me that if you cross breed one animal with another animal like a dog with a cat you would get something inbetween but it would be sterol."
- Sausagesteaksauce, CreationTalk


"I think if fags don't believe in God then religion should have no influence on them. However, it is misunderstood people such as paul3 and yourself who try and deceive homosexuals in thinking it's okay to believe in God and be gay. It is people such as paul3 and yourself who have tried to justify this abomination as a "normal" practice when according to about 95% of the worlds population it is wrong according to their religious texts."
- King Russ, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Sex is for the purpose of procreating. You say what is wrong with pleasure. Tell me this, what is wrong with fucking an animal, having sex with little 5 year old girls etc? I'll tell you why, IT'S NOT NATURAL!!!"
- King Russ, PayableOnDeath BBS


"The point is that the constitution was written to protect religious freedom. The modern supreme court has turned the constitution into toilet paper and they do not protect the freedom they were put there to protect. The only thing they protect is their pride and ego.

The idea that religion should not be taught in the school system is pure nonsense."
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"i don't believe there is ever a reason to have an abortion. i don't care if it's rape, incest, mother's life on the line, baby's gonna die anyways...God never gave anyone the right to choose who should live or not. even in the case of rape or incest, God has a plan for that baby.

if the mother was gonna die...you need to trust God in this."
- blueiverson, ChristianForums


"Its a form of murder,Satan just tries to make it look good w/ Roe v Wade bunk like:

"It respects Womens' rights"
"An unborn child is not a person"
"What if the baby endangers the womans' health"
blah,blah,blah........."
- Hector Medina, ChristianForums


"If the [ectopic] pregnancy is endangering the life of the mother than don't you think God can work a miracle if given the chance? Since when is it ok for us decide that "my" life is more important than another's life?"
- Baptistgal, ChristianForums 


"If the babys life endanger's the Women's life thats too bad,but that dosen't mean that the Baby has to die!"
- Hector Medina, ChristianForums


"I am not a woman... so they will most likely not respect my statement. However, they do not hold the scales of life either, and can not act as if they do.

Now... you say: "but the mother would die, and the child would die in almost all cases as well."

And I say: Ask the Healer."
- fieldsofwind, ChristianForums


[Replying to 'Ectopic pregnancies do not survive, ever. The only thing they can do is kill the mother.'] "And dead people do not rise. I do not hold the scales of life in my hands lovedone. However, neither do you. If anyone is in that situation, and they simply ignore the ability for God to do the impossible, then they are not themselves really living. Ask the Healer... do what He says."
- fieldsofwind, ChristianForums


[Replying to 'ending an ectopic pregnancy is not immoral'] "I wouldn't agree with that either. I would say it goes under the exception cause and must be delt with on a case by case basis."
- Outspoken, ChristianForums


"I know exactly what it [an entopic pregnancy] entails, as I know exactly what terminal cancer intails. Do miricles happen? Yes. Do they happen all the time? No. Thus a case by case basis."
- Outspoken, ChristianForums


"How do you know that your disbelief in God is not being caused by a demonic spirit who is psychologically disturbing your rational judgment leading you away from God? Alternatively how do you know that your disbelief in God does not stem from some deep seated subconscious emotional problem which is affecting your rational judgement on the issue without you realising it?"
- Tercel, Internet Infidels


"No, more like a J[ehovah's]W[itness] false teaching that hell is where you are instantly burned up, destroyed and forgotten. No eternal suffering to it. But these people who mock God's Word will learn the horrible truth too late."
- Gerry, ChristianForums


"Left-handed people ARE sinners!

"Left-handed" people ARE NOT NORMAL PEOPLE.

ANY "left-handed" person can CHOOSE to write with his or her NORMAL hand.

READ YOUR LEVITICUS. THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY does NOT want left-handed people, homosexuals, or men who have had vasectomies in HIS HOLY TEMPLE."
- Vera Carp, VoyForums


"Why should we worry about nuking some heathen MOOSLIMS?

It's not like the Mooslims are going to Heaven, anyway.

Since Mooslims worship Allah, and not God, GOD doesn't hear their prayers and GOD has already condemned all Mooslims to HELL."
- Vera Carp, VoyForums


"Anybody who is attracted to the same sex is a homosexual regardless of age!

The word homosexuality in the dictionairy states nothing about the person's age, just same sex!
This is a sin!

Young kids is the 2nd part and it is also a sin.
Jesus said would be better for such to have a millstone tied around their neck and for them to be cast into the sea!"
- Marty Lineberry, VoyForums


"Jesus said YOU are not to judge. HEATHENS are in NO place to judge True Christians!

TRUE CHRISTIANS, on the other hand, are exhorted to judge RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT on HEATHENS and REPROBATES like YOU, missy!

Which is EXACTLY what we are doing!"
- Vera Carp, VoyForums


"Yes, women are for sex only...

I never said I was a pimp, you moron.

What else would I wanna do with women? Go see a romatic comedy? Talk about cooking or make up? Go shoe shopping?"
- Scorpio, VoyForums


"As I said, I don't go to gay bars, and the particular incident I described occured in a normal bar. I understand why you would be flattered--you're a woman, and women are attention whores. That's a scientifically proven fact."
- Scorpio, VoyForums


"But, if the United States is all they want then I say great, move all straight decent humans to whatever continent they would like (especially the children), move all the fags of every nation here and let them alone for the next 30-40 years.
Then we will be able to come back and repopulate the US knowing full well they (homosexuals) are extinct.

See, the best enemy for a heterophobe is themselves. They are violent and disgusting people who will pass a disease to their "partner(s)" of choice without giving their actions a second thought.
Fags are all about themselves. They don't care for you, me or anyone beyond insisting that we pay for the consequences of their pleasure."
- Eric, VoyForums


"And you still dont seem to understand that I do not accept YOUR opinion that humans are primates. Instead I accept God's opinion that humans, although created by the same creator hence the similarities, are God's special creation and seperate from primates."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


"James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.

Why call them aliens? Why not use their proper Bible name and call them demons?"
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"That is why God has given us a bible!

So that we don't just come up with anything our little minds want to!

Otherwise, the human race, would not have any rules, laws or guidlines to live by!"
- Warrior FC, ChristianForums


"I only had time to watch the first 15-20 minutes, but there is no doubt that music has an awful effect on our youth. Especially instructive is the statement made the ex-KGB agent, when asked about overthrowing "free" countries and making them into "communist" countries. The first step - DEMORALIZE the people. Does music accomplish this? Absolutely."
- cdohrer, RaptureReady


"Who are they to think their opinions...could persuade our government to change its mind.....Majority rules!!!!!!!!!!!!"
- dpoolio, RaptureReady


"I know that these things I say aren't normally taken seriously anymore. This is because Satan has been brainwashing the people of this planet for far too long."
- jesusfreak4life, The Skeptic Friends Network


[Again on Old Testament atrocities] "Yet, let us look at the logical, and smart, reason for the killing of these women and children.

By allowing the women and children to live, they allow the memory of the dead father's and husbands. They allow hate to brew. They allow time for the nation to grow back. They allow for another war. Therefore they had to kill off the women and children to prevent further conflict. What may seem evil was actually wise.
Look at Germany, after WW1 they raised up a new generation to fight. Iraq has had 10 years to build upon youth and make them war machines. It is only when a nation is completely defeated that we can see them turn around.

So call it evil all you want, it was a very smart move."
- Super Jew, Thought Cafe


"It seems that after the flood, some of the ocean floors were supernaturally uplifted to form the continents as others sank to form large ocean alleys to catch the waters."
- KingDavid, RaptureReady


"Years ago, back when I was in middle school, I saw an angel, and a few years ago when I was in high school I saw a demon. This past summer, I had looked at a bunch of pornography on the computer while my family was away in Washington, DC, and when I was "done" I could hear footsteps walking all around the house; and I was home alone. I invited a friend over the next night to see if he had the same "experience" and he heard it also. We prayed throughout the whole house, and what not, and we've not heard any of this since."
- Cocamo Joe, PayableOnDeath BBS


"But simply reproducing lowers that originsm's chance of survival by increasing competition. So natural selection would favor those things that did not reproduce and therefore did not create competition for survival."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


"Count the # times "God" appears in the Bible. It was written by the only perfect being ever and peer reviewed for a few thousand years."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


"No, anyone who was indoctrinated into evolution and chose to remain willingly ignorant to satisfy their itching ears would not see that these are not mistakes."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


"learning to survive requires intelligence. A person who is a "vegetable" doesn't possess inteligence. They do not posses the ability to survive. A respiratior can make them breathe, they can be fed by an IV. but they no longer posses the intelligence to survive. So left alone, they'd die. Same with that immaginary first lifeform."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


"The proliferation of cafeteria "Christians" like you, Karl and David is powerful empirical evidence that we are surely living in the Last Days.

Even so, come Lord Jesus.

"For the time is coming when people [i.e., cafeteria "Christians"] will not put up with sound doctrine, but having itching ears will accumulate for themselves [anthropology] teachers to suit their own desires [i.e., the esteem of the unGodly], and will turn away from listening to the truth [God's revealed Word, the Bible] and wander away to myths [i.e., macroevolutionary theory]. - The Apostle Paul, 2nd Letter to Timothy, 4:3-4."
- Evolskeptic, CreationTalk


"Oh, and I have a hypothesis about the fire breathing dragons (assuming they existed). Somebody (somewhere around the 1960’s I think) came up with a car that runs on water. The oil companies paid this person money so that he wouldn’t sell these cars (and I think they also tried to kill him to prevent him from selling these cars). Basically, how this car works is it separates the hydrogen from the oxygen, burns the hydrogen and uses the oxygen (because fire needs oxygen to burn). This is not only much faster (and more powerful) than regular gas cars, but it’s also much more fuel - efficient. Right now there are companies that have torches that use water as fuel. These torches are much hotter and much more fuel – efficient than gas torches. It’s possible that dragons took water, separated the hydrogen from the oxygen, burned the hydrogen and used the oxygen (because fire needs oxygen to burn)."
- Bettawrekonize, CreationTalk


"You mean how science use to teach flat earth while the Bible taught a round one?"
- Super Jew, Thought Cafe


"A simple reason why faggot marriages should be legal

If the faggots marry each other, they won't be forced by the society to marry women and procreate. If they don't procreate, the homosexulity gene(s) will be taken out of the genepool, and homos will be no more.

What do you think?"
- Scorpio, VoyForums


"We don't want to be a bah humbug and want our children to experience as much joy as possible at Christmas. But their is a hidden danger in what appears on the surface as an innocent tale. Santa, turn a few letters around and you get Satan."
- repentandbelieve, ChristianForums


"He laughs at the anti-Hovind websites...they actually give him more opportunity to give the gospel...Thanks for helping Kent get the message out."
- FirstCor123, RaptureReady


"Demonic wave attack on the Saints.This is not a drill!!
Many of you have been going through this,during the past x number of months.We have seen many fall victim to these assults that press in hard,even to our own person's.This is very real and inspired by the dark side.There have been so many times in which I was in the process of sending out a message to someone to give advice and encouragement,then seeing my computer get knocked off the net.It's unreal to say the least."
- Mongoose60, RaptureReady


*** Post of the Week for December 8-14, 2002 ***

"Satan has the "power of the air" right now. He messes with TV, radio, phone signals all the time. Most of the time he fails because God has His boot on his back. He has a short leash.

But it is still possible for him to succeed in occasionally to cut off communications that would prosper the kingdom of God."
- BarbT, RaptureReady


[On Old Testament atrocities] "Your also forgetting that Jews didn't just kill women and children for no reason. When there was war in those days, and towns were attacked, they killed everything, unless it was of some value (such as women and cattle). Don't think these things were not done only by Jews, that was war back then.

Its also logical to wipe out children anyway. Why kill the father when the son will grow up bitter and end up killing your people?"
- Jon The Jew, Thought Cafe


"ScientificAtheist... are you a Christian...[?]"
- Live4Jesus, Thought Cafe


"Give us a four page lecture on it, if you will. We're waiting with baited breath Einstein. Cosmic microwave background radiation? Just because you burnt your popcorn in the microwave, doesn't mean you witnessed the Big-Bang my friend."
- learboy, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Besides the historical inaccuracies of the Book of Morman, which the Bible does not have, the Bible warns against things like the LDS."
- Jiggles, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Humanoid isn't really a scientific word. It's purly out of the pages of star trek scripts."
- Porfirio, PayableOnDeath BBS


"I wouldn't equate the liberals with the poor and the sick, unless you're referring to a liberal's spiritual health."

"So, you are saying that it is Christians [like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson] that are the problem, right? Homosexuals and Liberals are the good people, and Christians are the bad people, eh? You seem to have it all figured out my friend. What solutions do you propose?"
- learboy, PayableOnDeath BBS


"See, here you go again. Equating politics with religion. You'd make a good pope."
- sniff, PayableOnDeath BBS


"I have no idea what point you are trying to make here, except that you might be making a cry for attention and help. It seems you might be in need of a psychoanalysis. I recommend seeing a psychiatrist."
- learboy, PayableOnDeath BBS


"a warning to everyone trying to dethrone Yahweh: if you do not re-assess what you're doing and repent of the actions accompanied with it, you shall recieve Hell for eternity. It's up to you, you're liable for what you now know."
- unitedistand, ChristianForums


"I think that given long enough, these scientists may discover that we are related to watermelons."
- Illusion, RaptureReady


"What fools.
These morons [scientists] look at dna while all around them
God has put His IMAGE in people.

Miracles and marvels abound while
they classify it all with their little closed minds

They just don't get it.

In order to justify their sin they need a belief system
that rejects the TRUTH."
- coffeehubby, RaptureReady


"And by the way, everyone who keeps posting these "I'm giving up on my faith and religion" and "I'm starting to dislike Christianity"

Grow up!!!"
- inverter, PayableOnDeath BBS


"atheists shouldnt really celebrate christmas should they? Atheists HATE Christ, right? So christmas shouldnt really be celebrated by them..
but this goes against centuries of tradition and i thought that was a little unfair.

Instead atheists should celebrate something different - Givmas, which is an altered version of christmas that only involves giving of presents and hanging around with family and friends. that way they dont have to have a looming religious feeling about the whole ordeal"
- Frivolous, Internet Infidels


"The Council of Nicaea deserves more respect than being ridiculed in such a manner. I do not often see Christians ridiculing politicians and other prominent figures so inappropriately"
- Frivolous, Internet Infidels


"You are just in denial.

Snowflakes cannot form by themselves, unless the molecules are specifically designed to allow them to.

If you can show me how molecules can form by themselves, then you may have something."
- You Betcha, Internet Infidels


"Someone made up the conjecture that all living creatures today came from the same single living organism. To this day there is no observation of this, but because people want so badly to believe it they will force anything they can to fit the preconceived conjecture."
- You Betcha, Internet Infidels


"human-- one possessing in high degree the qualities considered distinctive of a man"
- You Betcha, Internet Infidels


"All things are evidence [of God's existence]. Yes AIDS is evidence. AIDS would not be without God creating a world where it could exist.

AIDS would also not be is the universe did not exist."
- unworthyone, ChristianForums


"The word witchcraft used here in the origional language is: pharmakeia, far-mak-i'-ah; from Greek 5332 (pharmakeus); medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literal or figurative) :- sorcery, witchcraft.Rev. 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

If your going to trust the United States Government IE. the FDA [Food and Drug Administration] to determine just what is a witchcraft and sorceries and what it not, then you may just find yourself in trouble with God on the Day of Judgement."
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"I understand my post was a long one, and I am sure you just skimmed though it. So I will go over the part about witchcraft again. The Greek word: pharmakeia is the same word we use today for pharmacy. There are three scriptures in the Bible, that use this word. All three have to do with sorcery and witchcraft."
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"monty python, the epitome of unholyness and unsanctification. If you guys only know that you testify against yourselves and establish what I am saying as true."
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


[On a webpage explaining that Santa Claus is based on St. Nicholas] "would you trust the offical version of world history accrding to hitelrs nazi germany?

no?
well why trust the offical world history ccoring to the roman catholic church?"
- zion3000, RaptureReady


"If you truly had the Holy Spirit, then you would still be a Christian. Otherwise you can't say you had Him, seeing as you deny His existance..."
- sub TEN 2 mile, PayableOnDeath BBS


"what if she was raped? some people say. if a girl got pregnant after she had been raped abortion is still wrong. because God had a hand in it. not that he wanted that girl to be raped, no, because no life is concieved without God's consent and many times God uses bad situations to make something really good happen. if you're pregnant as a result of rape God will take care of you and your baby just trust him."
- Evlin, Thought Cafe


[To a person whose father committed adultery] "I do want to say this: Not to hound your mom, but that is one of the reasons why wives should not work... Cause they are suppossed to help out the husband and keep him adequate. Plus they will be attacked by "wolves" (horney men)"
- ArchxAngel, PayableOnDeath BBS


"did I say it was the moms fault?? no. I was simply adding something could help better the issue. What I said does infact happen for often then not."
- ArchxAngel, PayableOnDeath BBS


"Seriously man, you can't even handle the truth about the faked Apollo missions, what makes you think you could accept the truth about how the earth was formed?"
- Seethruart, Straight Dope Message Board


"I believe you are the one making false claims (should I be suprised?). Where have I said anything about imaginary little people? Nowhere have I mentioned that. I suppose you imagined it, like you imagine the Apollo missions landed on the moon

I claim the moon landings were faked, and I am backing that up with solid photographic evidence. I have made no false claims. The only false claims are made by NASA and the US Government.

As far as your bogus scientific theories go....you can stuff them."
- Seethruart, Straight Dope Message Board


"'True science is the science that agrees with God,and if it goes against the Bible it is wrong' ok that is juss my idea"
- **~*Max Factor[><]**~*, Thought Cafe


"i believe in the big bang God spoke n it happened tats my idea on evolution lol + how could there b even an atom when there wusn't nuttin?"
- Monia, Thought Cafe


"THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY THAT WE ARE HERE WITHOUT A CREATOR!!! NONE!! NADA!!

This is why I disregard all "advances" in science. Because If scientists are going to leave their brains in the parking lot on the fact that God simply must exist if we exist. then why would they use their brains for anything else. We accuse you of everything you accuse us, including circular reasoning..but just one thing, WE'RE RIGHT!!"
- inverter, PayableOnDeath BBS


"You keep telling me about this person somewhere who has never heard about Jesus [going to hell]. Your so worried about this person. But your here right now, and you are hearing about Jesus. What are you going to do about it?"
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"Wrong. YOU may be related to an ape, but I am not. I am a human, specially created by God with a soul, created for His purpose with life breathed into me by Him. If you want to think of yourself as a pathetic ape, go ahead. And when your children act like animals, do not disciplin them because it is what YOU told them they are. They only are following YOUR instructions."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


[On evolution] "All you have is fairy tales."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


*** Honorable Mention (from a website, not a forum) ***

"There is nothing so vile and abominable in the eyes of Heaven as the abortionist and the homosexual; the first because he destroys the Divine spark of human life, the second because he perverts it."
- Robert W. Baral, OurChurch.com


"Heterosexual pedophiles are few and far between, but ALL HOMOSEXUALS ARE PEDOOPHILES!

The people you mentioned [pedophile priests] certainly committed misdeeds; but the punishment designated for HOMOSEXUALS, BY GOD, is EXTERMINATION.

TRUE CHRISTIANS support the COMPLETE and TOTAL EXTERMINATION of DISEASED, FILTHY HOMOSEXUALS!"
- Vera Carp, VoyForums


"Some [Catholics] are struggling with these issues, and there are a lot of lurkers here that may be coming here and reading both your argument and the Catholic argument and turning to the truth rather than the teachings they have been led to believe."
- Werner, Moderator of RaptureReady


"I'm still new in the apologetics area concerning the Catholic Church. Do they really believe these things?

I really would like to know."
- Jesusfreak40, RaptureReady


"Sid, did you know that they've 'kissed and made up'?

So have the Lutherans and the RCC.

So have the Evangelicals and the RCC.

The Dalai Lama is referred to by the head honcho as his best friend, so the Buddhists have kissed up to the RCC as well.

The Muslims have been kissed up to by the RCC.

The Hindus have been made friends with.

The pagans have been kissed up to. Don't believe me?..read uri.org.

Everyone has kissed and made up.

Can anyone say, Constantine?

Pity for them, there are heretics around like you and me, who refuse to 'kiss and make up', and we all know what's going to happen to those who don't."
- Lordschild, RaptureReady


"Christianity is not a religion, it simply is TRUTH. The truth is never wrong."
- Darth Monkyus, PayableOnDeath UK BBS


"Getting any kind of Biblical advice from N.A.T [an atheist] is like asking Ray Charles to tell you about the mona lisa. It's like asking a deaf person to describe one of Beethoven's symphonies."
- inverter, PayableOnDeath BBS


"You said "evolution is not only possible but certainly occured, chances are, they know what they're talking about." Chances ?!?! So you're taking a "chance" with scientists instead of a God who "claimed" He created the earth ??
(I'd rather take my "chances" with the Holy Bible which is perfect and has never been proven wrong in any way, then with imperfect scientists.)"
- KingDavid, RaptureReady


"Science claims evolution, but cannot prove it. Creation has a written record of Noah. Science claims the Big Bang but cannot prove it. Creation has a written record of what was observed by the creator. Science claims when you die you die, but cannot prove it. Creation again has a written record. You may not believe that written record, but that is by YOUR decision. Do you accept George Washington? Napoleon? Chaucer? Voltaire? Shakespeare? Why? All you have is written records of them..."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


"I have never claimed God was proveable. But neither is evolution. If it is, grab yourself a monkey and evolve me a man."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


"I'll never claim to be an expert when it comes to religious comedy (LDS), but do they [Mormons] really and honestly believe that Native Americans came from Israel? Was that written on the Golden Hubcap or was that added later at one of the drunken orgies?"
- RioZahra, RaptureReady


"God can not be proven to exist. I am going to concede this point right from the get go. God also can not be disproved to exist. I am not sure if the atheists within earshot are going to concede this as well or not, if not I would appreciate if they would prove me wrong.

It is irrational to believe in that which can not be proven."
- Wackyboy, Internet Infidels


"So, space/time ceases to exist and then there is nothing left. This nothing spontaneously combusts [for no apparent reason because nothing exists] and you don't believe in god?

WOW... that must be the most illogical thing I've ever heard..."
- Tarmac, PayableOnDeath BBS


"In a spirit of what they would think of as "free-thinking" and the best new idea, they are merely repeating the same words and echoing the same sentiments as generations upon generations right back to Old Scratch himself, Lucifer. "Free thinking", my ass."
- sniff, PayableOnDeath BBS


"This is really a question for those who dont believe in God. Where do you think this world is heading. Are we humans going to evolve into humanoids. What ever that is."
- hercules1, PayableOnDeath BBS


"The Greek and Egyptian gods were amoral meaning they didn't care what they did or who they hurt. I mean alot of them did pretty nasty stuff to their so called "beloved" people. I don't really see much of that amorality in my God. So err yeah big diference!"
- Zealot (Judo Trained ish), PayableOnDeath UK BBS


[Replying to 'but humans ARE primates!'] Not according to our creator. Only to your scientists who deny Him."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


[On hardware evolution] "So? That's not evolution, is a process of testing, evaluating what was tested, throwing out what you determine isnt the best, and tweaking what is left."

"Try this. I take my car to an automated car wash that has a computer that detects cleanliness. It washes it one time with air and one time with water. It tests it and its cleaner with water. Next time it discards air and tries water and mud. Water wins. Next time water vs water and a cloth. Water and a cloth wins. Next time soap on one cloth and rocks on the other. Soap wins. And after 4100 tries, it can find no better way to wash my car. Tada! Evolution, right!?! Whatever."

"And dont give me that nonsence of "not the point". It may not be YOUR point, but it is still the truths. Just because you throw in the word "evolution" does not make it evolution."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


[Replying to 'what's the difference between gnostic and neo-gnostic?'] "The most significant difference is the spelling. In theory though both are equally miserable burning in eternity and both are in the smoking section. Maybe one merits an window seat...."
- JimB, RaptureReady


"However I believe sickness shouldn't have any hold over us as Christians, Bible says if we lay hands on the sick, they'll recover."
- Lizzy, PayableOnDeath UK BBS


[Replying to 'can people be blinded by faith?'] "By religions, yes, by Christianity, no. Being a Christian is a personal relationship with God. Before people get saved they are blind to the truth. But, once they get saved, they are no longer blind to the truth."
- BurningSon, PayableOnDeath BBS


"I was reading that dogs evolved from wolves around 12,000 years ago, what I want to know is how a purebred wolf evolves into a Chihuahua, for one that doesn't seem like a long enough time, and two, how did the gene structure just change?

I mean the wolf would have to have mated with something else. Oh wait that doesn't work."
- Badfish, ChristianForums


"But I would not be so sure that a lot of forms of sickness is not demonic.

For me, I can not tell the difference. If I pray and sickness comes out of a person or if a demon comes out of a person, it looks the same to me. There could be a difference, but it looks the same to me.

I was at a buffet a while ago, and someone started to have a epilepsy fit. After not to long I found it very annoying. I decided if they could do that, then I could start to praise God. Then I pleaded the Blood, the Blood, the Precious Blood of Jesus.

They quit having their fit, or at least started to come out of it. So we could go back to enjoying our dinner.

You got to know who to get mad at, and chances are it is the devil that is causing the problems. The Bible says we will trample devils underfoot."
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"I like the analogy of myself to a hurricane."
- jpholding, CWS Talk!


"I had no idea degrees in logic, reasoning etc. were being called degrees in "math" here in the States."
- jpholding, CWS Talk!


"Nothing carries weight with you if it disagrees with you, that's clear. That mind is about as flexible as titanium."
- jpholding, CWS Talk!


"No, I don't care what you do for yourself. You made your decision based on the machinations of a person whose ability to think logically is impaired. You have essentially let a blind man drive you around town."
- jpholding, CWS Talk!


"As I have already said, I have gone as far as defending you from charges of arrogance brought by others. I have explained to them that you are not aware of what you are doing and that they should cut you some slack, as we say here in the States. Unfortunately many people find that hard to do, and their only recourse is to fight fire with fire, or withdraw. You may consider that the reason many quit debating you is not because you have actually won the debate, but because they could not bear up under your (unintentionally) insulting demeanor."
- jpholding, CWS Talk!


"I imagine the Pharisees thought Jesus was self-righteous, condescending, etc as well, as did Paul's Judaizing opponents, and Elijah's opponents who served Baal."
- jpholding, CWS Talk!


"is it true that satan founded the roman catholic church?"
- jesus freak83, RaptureReady


"Sure, REAL Christianity would be destroyed [if evolution was established]. False Christianity might continue. I'm sure the JW's and Mormons would go on. They could just join one of those."
- Rom831, RaptureReady


"Catholic teaching is miles apart from truth, that's what makes it so dangerous."
- Watcher, RaptureReady


"I think one misconception is that those who find truth and stop searching are therefore closeminded. Who would find truth and then keep searching? I say once the truth is found drop your anchor and set up camp, there is no reason to search any longer. Now that dosen't mean we shouldn't learn from other peoples viewpoints. I love hearing the otherside of things although I admit that I listen usually just so I can learn how to debate against them in the future. The word open-mindedness is tossed out there way too much. And if being closedminded means not allowing the worldly viewponts to be considered, then count me in."
- inverter, PayableOnDeath BBS


"The Theory of [Atheistic] Evolution says that when the earth was volcanically active after being formed, life (the first simple cell) was synthesized from various non-living building blocks. However, the problem here is that non-living matter cannot produce living organisms.

This invalidates any evolution in any definition past present or future."
- theTruth, RaptureReady


"Its just a well tested theory that you still have no answer for with no solid evidence."
- theTruth, RaptureReady


[After posting an article that argues... brace yourselves... that there should be gazillions of humans if the earth is millions of years old!] "Janet, the fact that this document is 77 years old has no bearing on its relevance.

Math is math.

Irrefutable."
- theTruth, RaptureReady


[On a preacher who got beaten up for saying, at a gay man's funeral, that he was burning in hell and calling the attendees 'whoremongers'] "I am not saying I agreed with the tactics or ideas. I am saying I admire such boldness in ANYONE."
- Susan, ChristianForums


"Dogs evolved from wolves? So...... Why then, do we still have wolves??"
- cinlynn, RaptureReady


"The whole idea belongs in a supermarket tabloid.

Which idea...Dogs evolving from wolves? Whales evolving from wolves? Or evolution in general?

Yes. To all three questions."
- FirstCor123, Administrator of RaptureReady


"So the poodle and Chi-hua-hua come from a wolf?

Dont buy it!"
- Budge, RaptureReady


"AIDS started from gay men having sex with diseased monkeys. Do you call THAT normal? I don't.

So, I'm not in the business of being politically correct, I'm in the business of spreading the Word of God."
- fleshNblood, Bravenet Web Services


"Not abominations, as you so falsely call them, but the truth of God's love.

A real born-again Christian would not kill anyone, so don't call anyone who does a born-again Christian. We let God get His justice.

Roman Catholics are a church of satanists. They can't get forgiveness by asking a man to forgive them, that is against what Jesus told us.

You try to condemn born-again Christians for the sins of the world. Look around you, it is satanists like you who are pushing the world into the abyss."
- fleshNblood, Bravenet Web Services


"There is no love involved in abusing someone's anus. It is evidence of great selfishness to seek pleasure at the cost of trauma to epithelial tissue and implantation of pathogens.

God in love gave each of us an anus and a rectum. When the anus/rectum malfunctions, it causes discomfort and pain. To lose the anus/rectum means a colostomy, and who wants a colostomy?

To insult an anus is to insult its creator. This is selfishness, the opposite of love."
- LOVE, Bravenet Web Services


"Cute.
It's to bad for you that blacks are born black. Homosexuals are made (they choose to be an abomination.)
The disease ridden, homosexual child molesters are not a "race" of people and God does not make mistakes.
You know?!
It's too bad people don't understand the insult they sling at people of color when they say that homosexuals are no different than than blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc. and to include the perverts with the ranks of said people of color.
Homosexuals can repent and stop being perverts.
People of color cannot stop being "people of color."
- Eric, Bravenet Web Services


*** Post of the Week for December 1-7, 2002 ***

"Hitler was a genius who gave the people what they wanted, a scapegoat. He went slightly further than neccesary, but in the end he was ther greatest leader of his time. People should look up to him.

Sadly enough I'm completely serious."
- khazul, PayableOnDeath BBS


"He was amazing. His genocide and firm hand were over excessive in something that were needed"
- khazul, PayableOnDeath BBS


"I do not support genocide. I do not believe Hitler great for what his murders. I consider him great for what he did for Germany and the world and his way of effective ruling. I think he led the country in the best way possible, although he did go slightly too far."
- khazul, PayableOnDeath BBS


"So, what would teh world be like without Hitler and human rights and the end of teh depression and radar and ect that come out of world war 2? It would be very interesting indeed to see how far behid we would be."
- khazul, PayableOnDeath BBS


"God works in mysterious ways and sometimes us humans are unable to comprehend why He does certain things. I wouldn't condemn Hitler to hell on the basis of killing 6million+ Jews. God tells us it is faith that justifies us, who knows what was going on in Hitlers mind."
- Livin'4Christ, PayableOnDeath BBS


"God has killed more [than Hitler] and will send more than half of all humanity to hell... does that make Him bad? No."
- Livin'4Christ, PayableOnDeath BBS


[On Hitler] "if you seem to think that brainwashing your followers into thinking they are happy with you is a sign of great leadership, see Stalin. The chaos that ensued after his death would, by your logic, make him a God."
- C6H12O6, PayableOnDeath BBS


[On Hitler] "It's not that he was a great leader, it's that people in despair will follow almost anything and anyone if they think it will get them out of it."
- King James the Annointed, PayableOnDeath BBS


"I would just like to say that Hitler never orderd the exacution of the Jews. That was his henchmens ideas. HItlers antisemitic policies were as a result of the antisemitic nature of Germany at the time. Hitler wanted power, the German people disliked the Jews (for whatever reasons ie "stealing jobs") SO hitler just gav ethe people what they wanted. It was the people whio felt betrayed by the Treaty at Versile. Its was the people who wanted war. Hitler just wanted power. SO he saw the people asking for a certain leader and he adapted himself to be that leader.

Hitlers master plans for wiping out the jews are ficticious. History is written by those who won the war. In actual fact there is evidence that HItler didnt know about the concentraion camps until after the extermination had begun. Its scary to know how little power he had over his cabinet and little cronies."
- dr.beagle, PayableOnDeath BBS


"You belong to a touchy-feely, LIEberal church, don't you?

I can tell.

'Did Jesus condemn the woman who was caught in idolatry???'
'Did he bash her and tell her that she was living in sin???'
'What about the woman who poured perfume on his feet??'
'In the site of the Pharasees and Tax collectors she was a prostitute and a whore.'

First, there was no woman "caught in idolatry." From that statement, I can tell you've never OPENED a Bible, let along READ it -- you have been merely content to let your pastor or minister (whom I'll bet is a woman or a practicing homosexual) READ the Scripture to you once a week, and you call that "Bible study".

And I'm sure that you have conveniently ignored the fact that in each case, the whores and adulteresses with whom Jesus spoke were told "to go and SIN NO MORE." Did Jesus say, "Oh, that's all right -- you just continue FORNICATING and WHORING and everything will be just fine?" Did Jesus say, "Oh, you're just living a valid ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE and the Pharisees are just not CELEBRATING DIVERSITY?"

NO. Those women were WHORES and ADULTERESSES, and as such they DESERVED to be struck dead on the spot; and it's only through His mercy that He allowed them to live, provided that they GO AND SIN NO MORE.

And did Jesus tell us to tolerate RAMPANT IMMORALITY, DEVIANT SEX BEHAVIOR, PERVERSION, and BLASPHEMY as "ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLES" so we can "CELEBRATE DIVERSITY"?

No. He said, "I tell you, that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven." (Matthew 5:20) and "Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect." (Matthew 5:48). THAT is the STANDARD He has given us, which HE EXPECTS US TO KEEP.

I suggest YOU start WORKING towards THAT STANDARD, Missy -- if you know what's good for you."
- Vera Carp, Bravenet Web Services


"GOD HAS GIVEN THEM (sodomites) UP!

What happens when a person CHOOSES to become homosexual?"

"They being performing UNTHINKABLE acts with EACH OTHER -- actions which NO ONE, but NO ONE in their right mind, would ever CONCEIVE of doing, e.g., CHOOSING TO ENGAGE IN HOMO AND LEZZIE SEX."

"DO YOU THINK A TRUE CHRISTIAN WOULD EVER DO SUCH A THING WITH HIS OR HER BODY?

DON'T SUGARCOAT THE TRUTH, ROBERT. Tell people EXACTLY what the SIN is, and its causes are (deliberate, conscious, and willful CHOICE), and what the consequences are!

GOD'S LAW IS CLEAR -- THE PENALTY SEVERE!!!"
- Vera Carp, Bravenet Web Services


[Replying to a satirical post of the Nicene Creed, in Latin, as the school prayer we can all agree on] "Sorry, but I don't speak or read French, but...

When I was younger, I use to be a real good French kisser with the wifey!

There is a lady from Quebec in our trailer park, but I don't think she could read this prayer, either!"
- Robert Baral, Bravenet Web Services


"actually ships like aircraft carriers are about the size of the ark. lotsa room. no windows so all the animals would hibernate."
- ouchless, Sympatico.ca Open Space


"Instintively a male lion will kill a litter of baby lions if it happens across them. This allows the mother of the cubs to come into heat faster and allows for the murdering male lion to mate with the female sooner. Also it helps insure that the strongest male lion is passing along his genes.
Could someone describe by strickly the means of natural selection how a lion could acquire this trait?"
- redstang281, Evolution versus Creationism


"If you can believe that life was formed from non living material obviously the instincts had to be non existant at some point. How could this trait of an animal killing the young to promote that animal's genes in the gene pool develope without the trait already existing to begin with? How would genes develope an animals instincts?"

"Oh I think this example is evidence of a good design, a program to maintain quality control of an animal."
- redstang281, Evolution versus Creationism


[Replying to 'I can't accept it was programmed because it contradicts my image of God'] "You believe in evolution, right? Then your image of God is already not the correct one according to scripture."
- redstang281, Evolution versus Creationism


"Keep in mind this has to be by natural selections rules. You don't believe in any intelligence to just poof - place it there.

Don't use the word mutated when you really mean 'poof.'"
- redstang281, Evolution versus Creationism


"Oh, and BTW even if I *was* wrong about the TOE you better not come on here and attack me for being ignorant of it when many of you on here are completly ignorant of the correct representation of the Bible and even many creationist theories. Seems pretty critical to me."
- redstang281, Evolution versus Creationism


"This isn't really the topic of this thread and I hate to get off topic, but arranging fossil's in a certain order doesn't prove anything. I can arrange a group of pen's on my desk from biggest to smallest but that doesn't prove they evolved from a stapler."
- redstang281, Evolution versus Creationism


"NEWS FLASH:

AIDS cures homosexuality - permanently.

Maybe it would be better if more folks found their way out of the sin of homosexuality BEFORE their condition is "cured" by AIDS?

Just an outlandish thought.."
- Robert Baral, Bravenet Web Services


[Replying to 'You think that the cannibalism of the young and weak so a male lion can satisfy his lust is a Godly design?'] "Yes, it is a quality control. It helps to ensure the strongest of the species breeds its genes into the gene pool, thus helping the created creature kind to have a greater chance at existing longer.

I think this makes an aweful lot more sense than any of these scenario's you fella's are trying so desperatly hard to imagine."
- redstand281, Evolution versus Creationism


"The "scientific evidence" is in the historical evidence of the Old Testament. Every civilazation mentioned is dating 10,000 to 15,000 yrs. old. Now you may say the Old Testament is a story book. Well, is has stories but it has been proven to be correct through the DEAD SEE SCROLLS."
- AndrewJackson2908, Evolution versus Creationism


"Evolution is the theory of dummies who actually think that nature has a mind to make selections. To be sure, "natural selection" implies the existence of intelligenge does it not? Please tell me where this mind of nature is.

Adaptation requires intelligence because to adapt implies to change when needed. Mutations do not require intelligence.

Random mutation is suppose to answer everything because it is random and does not require a mind. I would call that biology for dummies.

I don't object to mutations but do not see that to be an acceptable answer to justify qualities and innate abilities."
- Amos, Internet Infidels


"Thinking is a sign of oblivion. Only those who don't know must think and to resolve intelligence contained in "natural selection" they compare it with a combine sieve so they can hide behind the fact that combines don't think and still get the job done. Super intelligent! Evolution for dummies, and I love it.

Right, lineages adapt because they don't have a mind to think until they fail to adapt and nature gets the best of them. Oh sorry, there is no best in nature because it has no mind. They just fail to reproduce their genes, oh sorry, they don't 'have' genes because they 'are' not but only their genes are.

Each human being has hundreds of mutations and some have bigger ones to make humans out of a fish. Sounds like chaos to me. The thinking we do is just to eat, drink and be merry while in oblivion."
- Amos, Internet Infidels


"My opinion here is that the intelligent design is built within the species to make evolution possible and the proof of this is that we must sterilize creation to stop evolution. On a small scale we do to preserve food."
- Amos, Internet Infidels


"Maybe I should just say that in my view essence precedes existence and you will probably argue that existene precedes essence.

Evolution does not allow essence to precede existence because intelligence is needed to change the blueprint after which species are formed. You just hold that mutations change things in nature and the blueprint is written by man to fit the theory of evolution.

So what more do I need to say?"
- Amos, Internet Infidels


[Replying to 'Why would scientists lie??'] "Why do dogs bark? Why do cats meow? Because that is there nature. Why do liars lie? That is their nature."
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"Thanks lucaspa, you just demonstrated how people can twist and warp the facts to get them to fit their preconceived theorys."
- JohnR7, ChristianForums


"Evolution is just a theory, and a shady one at best. It's more like a political agenda that promotes communism, racism, and a new world order."
- Rising_Suns, ChristianForums


"Big bang theory disproved
pretty interesting how "big bang" theorists still manage to use a word naming space that also disproves the theory:

Universe
let's break this down, shall we?

the prefix in the word: Uni-.

Definition of Uni: prefix signifying one, once; as in uniaxial, unicellular. Uni is of Latin origion.

the main part of the word, Verse

Definition of verse: one line of poetry, Spoken sentence. Verse is also of latin origion.

Litterally, Universe means "one spoken sentence". What was that "one spoken sentence" that was spoken? Simple.

Genesis 1:3 says it clearly: '. . . Let there be light . . .'"
- unitedistand, ChristianForums


"I find it easier to believe that a God created a world than that it was created by a singularity (something so small it has no width, height nor depth) that farted in on itself and blew up.
Scientists are craaazy"
- Uncle Anders, PayableOnDeath UK BBS


"I wouldn't say that you [atheists] have won, more that you have a view of life which seems to explain everything with pointless flawed arguments, and that you can't accept any answers contradictory to your own opinions."
- Uncle Anders, PayableOnDeath UK BBS


"I spoke to a Celtic Witch. And they prided themselves in their faith in an uprovable relgion."
- CoreIssue, Christian Talk Zone


[On whether to lie to save Jews from Nazis] "also both the nazi and the jews were unsaved so protecting one over the other would be futile view everyone that is not saved the same"
- Hanahi, ChristianForums


[Replying to 'eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable'] "Not the ones from the Bible, try reading it sometime."
- Pteranodon, GameFAQs


"Some UFO's could be experimental government owned aircraft. Some could be regular aircraft or natural phenomena. But not in many cases, like my wife's story. I believe my wife saw a demonic manifestation or a real ship being flown by demons."
- doma, CWS Talk!


"How could God, cause other beings [aliens] who never knew Adam and the earth, to fall in sin just because Adam fell into it. God would be unjust."
- doma, CWS Talk!


"Another reason this can't be true [that aliens exist] is that Adam had been given authority over all creation. How could God give Adam authority over other beings from another planet? He wouldn't, therefore there are no other beings.

Another point would be; if there were other races of people on other planets, God would want them to know that Jesus came to earth to die for everyone, and that the gospel would need to be preached to them. Yet the Bible says preach to all the earth, not to all the planets. Again, there is noone out there, except angels and demons."
- doma, CWS Talk!


"As far as I can tell by scripture, science, and faith; all the physical universe can be touched by man.

Here is some evidence,

stars are dying, because of Adam. Before Adam sinned, there was no death.

meteors crash into the earth, before Adam sinned the earth was protected.

So things in space were affected by Adams sin, if not, we could go in space and stop sin. Then space would another way to perfection, instead of just Jesus."
- doma, CWS Talk!


"That's exactly why it's a faith and not a science. Some things in the Bible really surpasses all the things we can understand with our logic. And still I believe it's the truth. Because the Bible tells me it's the truth. Now for every rational thinking human being, that's insane. People don't believe something, until they saw it with their own eyes, or can rationally explain it. But if you believe something because it's said, you're a believer."
- <Mr. Kelder>, Internet Infidels


"The people here who believe in evolution get it wrong and errect a strawman when it comes to the 747 analogy. No serious creationist thinks that 747s give birth to baby 747s, and we realize that some modification happens with each new generation."

"Why don't nonliving things evolve if the universe was formed by evolution? The very fact that Helium is immutable, and never evolves into say carbon is direct proof of divine creation and negates a universe created by a mindless process like evolution."

"Why do evolutionists only quote athiests, like the people at Talkorigins? This would prove that their bias is spiritual and not scientific."

"The creation model predicts a static universe, unchanging from its orignal perfect state. Look at the stars. Exactly the same place they were thousands of years ago when we first started looking at the sky."

"If evolution were true, we'd see stars changing, as per cosmological evolution. But the sky looks the same always, regardless of weather or not your a professional astronomer or a layman. Thus again we see a perfect creation instead of evolution."

"Why don't we see transitional forms being crated today?"

"The second law of thermodynamics. Evolution has never fully recovered from the challenge of entropy."

"Finally, with evolution you would expect to see society and civilization developing slowly over time. Since world history is only about 5000 years old, and since every ancient culture has a flood story similar to the Genesis account, and since early civilizations are very advanced we can conclude that a literal interpretation of Geneisis is correct."
- One Faith, CreationTalk


"Most Atheists at one time believed in God. Maybe they weren't Christians but they believed at least in the existence of God. Most stopped for an emotional reason, not a evidence reason. Usually they became angry at God because of some tradgedy, or unanswered prayer ect. So the basis for their atheism is bitterness and hurt, not a lack of evidence. Because of this no (NO!) amount of evidence will prove anything to them, because they haven't dealt with the anger, hurt, bitterness, and resentment.

Maybe thats why it seems pointless, debating with some of you folks.

Just a thought."
- Lanakila, ChristianForums


"No I don't have statistics. I was just starting a thread and seeing where it would go fools parade. I am trying to get people thinking, not just believing what they have been told. You see, I have posted great evidence, only to have it thrown out, without so much as a thought. It gets frustrating, don't you know."
- Lanakila, ChristianForums


"Harry Potter is totally evil. It plants the idea in children't mind that witchcraft is ok. As adults we can distinguish between good and evil, but children cannot do this. If kids are properly taught, hopefully when their adults they can distinguish good and evil. But for a Christian to allow their young child to read or watch this stuff really is sick."
- Notliberal, Supporting Christians