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Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
August 2002 Edition
Public Function Begin_Stupid_Quotes [On abortion]
"Maybe those women wouldn't commit murder if it was called exactly
what it is, genocide." [Replying to another Christian expressing doubts
about standard doctrines] "You are in a
state of denial, Mr. Malone. God will indeed treat you the way you have
chosen to be treated. You reject the only provision by not believing God
at His word, when He tells you the only way to escape eternal torment is
thru trusting His Son, the Lord Jesus and obeying His commands. One of
which is to tell you the truth when you do not trust His Son. It is so,
Mr. Malone. [Arguing for theistic evolution]
"Yet i maintain that God is the origin of that evolution process, not
Darwin." "All that aside, do you live in a freakin' cave?
Do you have any gay friends? Good grief, if you want to talk about
homosexuality and consequences, as my dead grandfather. Yep, gay, and dead
at 56. AIDS. Most of my gay friends are on the same route. Every time one
of my friends comes out of the closet I cry. Not because of sin, but
because I know how they are going to die. Its a dangerous road they are
on. Homosexuality is rarely about two commited life partners. It is
usually about getting laid a lot from a lot of different people." [Defending the Biblically-recorded Hebrew
genocides, including wholesale slaughter of children]
"Surely if anyone there was innocent, and killed they would end up in
heaven." "The book of mormon contradicts the bible at
every turn, and even contradicts itself, it's total bull." "God isn't forcing His love upon us. If He did
then we would have no choice but to love Him. He'd be taking away our free
will. So He's giving us a choice. Love Him and your reward is Heaven.
Reject Him and condemn yourself to Hell. They are the two options God has
presented us with and the ONLY two options. Remember God doesn't send us
to hell, we condemn ourselves to hell. You give your wife a choice,
"stay with me and we'll spend the rest of our lives together or go
your away and never see me again". Are we as Christians afraid of
Hell? Very much so, but it's necessary for us to keep our love in the Lord
or risk losing faith." "We've heard it all before. [On why a kind God would use the threat of Hell as
an... incentive at all] "Like I said
before if there was something other than torment then who'd worship
Him?" [On why the dinosaurs went extinct]
"The other theory is that before Adam and Eve were the dinosaurs. God
created them and didn't like them so He flooded the earth and started
again." [Replying to suggestion he read Thomas Paine's Age
of Reason to get a deist's take on the Bible]
"Can't and won't Anyone can take the bible out of context and distort
it easily, it doesn't even take a smart person to do this." "I have experienced things of God, that cannot be
denied. I as well as many others have posted many testimonies on things we
have experienced. I have experienced things that are not from God, rather
from demons, and this is why I turned to God. "You do realise that the concept of Heaven
originated in the Old Testament... do you? You do realise that there is no
evidence out there to suggest there is a heaven outside of the
Bible?" [Whining about evolution]
"... I do wish that science would just quit. We have threats of
nuclear war. If science wants to keep expanding, I'm gonna board a shuttle
and get out of here! No, not really. There's too many souls to save." [Commenting on another theist's slightly different
belief in God, one which doesn't require accepting and loving Jesus to be
saved] "May I ask you how you can love
something that you've never even met, felt or heard? I bet you've never
even seen god. How can you love something you don't even know?" "Also stalictites and staligmites according to
evolutionists take hundreds and thousands of years to grow,THEY DON'T. [After rebuttal]
"What you just posted is evolutionist crap. "A note though, is that I have seen more closed
mindedness in the atheists on this site then the christian extremeists I
have seen. I stick to my theology, and I well hold strong to what I know
unless God tells me otherwise. In that way, my mind is open." [Replying to 'how is only accepting your knowledge
from one source having an open mind?']
"Good question, Camaban, however, God is all knowing, and if he tells
me about it, whats the need to have more then one source when I already
have a 100% reliable source? It takes an open mind to hear God, so as I
said, in that way, my mind is open." [After being asked if he also believes in the Loch
Ness monster, bigfoot, psychics, etc.]
"Gerald, I don't believe in it unless God sais it. So unless he tells
me about Nessie or Bigfoot, then I don't believe it. " "Theories in science tend to be educated guesses.
However, if you are educated in theories, all you will get is theories.
And indeed (the motto of christianforums) all theories are to a degree
assumption. Thus, many are educated in assumption. Cheers for the laws of
nature, and cheers for the cure for X, but assumption will never get you
anywhere until it becomes fact." *** Post of the Week for August 25-31, 2002 *** [Probably wondering about Bible verses
describing Satan as the 'prince of the powers of the Earth']
"This may sound stupid but it's food for thought none the less. "GOD DOES NOT NEED TO PROVE HIMSELF TO ANYONE.
ESPECIALLY YOU. ALSO, ITS CALLED BLIND FAITH! HAVING FAITH IN SOMETHING
THAT YOU CANNOT SEE." [Replying again to allegations of
hypocrisy relating to Islam and Christian extremists]
"How sad. I can tell you right now that as much hatred you have for
us then you can double the hatred Muslims feel for you. Feel free to
defend the Muslims... the ones that teach death to all people who aren't
in the Muslim faith. No the Muslims don't give a flying f**k about YOU or
America. How can you be so naive... or are you just a sheep... following
the crowd? No, the only people who care about you greatly are the
Christians. Do you not understand that? Open your friggin eyes and take a
good hard look around." "Which Quran were you reading? Of
course people will tell you Islam is of love and peace but don't be
fooled. Believe me when I say many Muslima in America wants glory to be
Allah and death to the congress. For Islam is held higher than any
national patriotism. Of course there are good Muslims out there... they
just understand the difference between 'right' and 'wrong'. I ask you to
actually read the doctrines before making generalisations about a
particular faith." [Replying to allegations that
Christian extremists can be just as bad as Islamic ones]
"Christianity is NO WAY supports the KKK. The KKK may be made up of
Christians (I don't know) but they are rascist and not Godly. They are not
doing the will of God and what has been taught to them. Abortion clinics
are usually the result of hippie do-gooders. Any Christian associated with
abortion clinic bombings is doing much evil in the eyes of God. Of course
there are going to be so called Christian whackos out there who are going
to shame the Christian faith by doing evil deeds, but they are simply
rebelling against God... or taking matter into there own hands. I ask you
to not base your perception of the Christian religion based on the
immoralities of idiots. I ask you to read the Bible, a law based on love,
kindness and most importantly, truth. There you'll seek the true nature of
God." [On infants dying of horrendous,
torturous birth defects] "Chew on this. [On the rather unwholesome idea that
Jewish people killed in the Holocaust are now in hell for eternity because
they didn't accept Jesus] "If the gassed
jews are in hell then they're in hell. It doesn't change the way I feel
about God. I think that most probably are (except the children). God
plainly states He sends no one to hell, but can only save people from
hell. He gave people free will to choose heaven or hell... it's actually a
choice. I infact believe that since God desires us to be like Him then
eventually everyone will end up in Heaven since I don't believe in eternal
punishment as justfication. This may go against my Christian beliefs but
it's how I truly feel and if I'm wrong... oh well. [Replying to questions of how it can
possibly be fair to condemn people based on religion]
"Jews, still waiting for the Messiah. They saw Jesus, knew He was the
Messiah but chose not to believe Him. The reason the Jews didn't believe
in Him was because He didn't typify what God's son would look like. Jesus
was plain looking and rejected even among His desciples. The Jews hated
Christ. [Told to another theist who was
rationally questioning the doctrine of Hell as illogical and unfair]
"I seriously recommend you don't apply science to death. It will lead
you to convince yourself of arguements that simply deceive you. Eternal
life comes through faith, nothing more... nothing less." [Regarding the David Westerfield trial
where the defendant was convicted of murdering a 7-year old girl]
"I think the motive was rape, and I think Westerfield got that sick
motive in his head from all that hentai [Japanese animated pornography]." "I hope he rots in jail. Maybe that
will shock other hentais into seeing the possible consequences. and then
they will get the help they need" "Fundamentalist Christianity must be
used to combat Fundamentalist Islam. Evil doesn't destroy itself. The
murder would be justified in Gods eyes because it is for a greater more
peaceful cause." [on Christian militants and going to
war for God] "I'd much rather chill and
scripture about it. But if GOD said " Take him/her camping "
That's it. Sorry! Nothing personal!" "He can not be disproven either!! "God clearly instructs us to worship
Himself... the Holy Trinity. If you do not then you worship another God
and this is called Idolatory which condemns you to Hell. Thus explains the
reason why Jews and Muslims go to Hell." [Replying to 'Hell is bullshit']
"Uh, I heard recent "scientific" discovery that the core of
our earth...that's right, that hot, steaming core. Apparently, some
scientists shoved some microphone below the earth's surface, and they
recorded agonizing screams of human misery. "I'm a Christian, and I'm going to
stick with that because thats the way I was Brought up." [Arguing for Mormonism]
"Like I said before, because it is true, I will have no problem
beating you in this argument. It's hard not to prove right what is already
right." [On human overpopulation]
"You obviously haven't taken a long drive thourgh the central part of
America now have you? Do that and see how much frikin land is there and
tell me then the world is over populated." "You have to believe with your mind
before you can think with your heart, and your not going to believe in
your mind if you don't wish to. " "And dictionary's are not as
reliable as the Bible. uh Duh." [After insisting he answer whether he
would kill children had he been an ancient Hebrew if he thought God had
ordered it] "Although I wouldn't be too
happy about it, yes. That and try to help out some of them. Duh. That's
what the Hebrews did. [After being asked if Hell makes any
sense at all] "Absolutely not. The only
reason I believe in hell is cause it's in the Bible and since I believe
the Bible to be Gods word then I believe there's a hell. If it wasn't in
the Bible then I would thinks it's a fantasy and untrue." "Id rather believe in the
bible.....then anything else..why? I don't need any reason but
faith." "Show me where THIS comes from. I've
never heard of homosexuality any time before the twentieth century." [Replying to a request for good
anti-evolution literature for a school report]
"The best book that I ever came across that showed evolution to be
false was, and is, the BIBLE. You know, where it says "God
created......." "This shows the ACLU's true
colors... "The themes in Star Wars may seem
innocent on the surface, but if you look at them closely (and if you look
at the man who invented the series), they are as distant from God's truth
as they can get. But it's just a bunch of movies, right? Wrong. The
subculture of the movies (which I was actively involved with, yes, even as
a Christian) does the same thing Harry Potter does with children...gets
people very interested in philosophies outside of scripture (the Force is
claimed by some as a real religion, and for others as a political
affiliation. There are people who will write in Jedi on forms as their
political party of choice or religion). [On evolution being taught in public
schools] "One word... homeschool" [On homosexual men]
"Geez, who likes sodomy anyway?" "There is no such thing as Christian
Homophobia. Yes homosexual lifestyles can tear a family apart, especially
if some members disagree with it and don't voice there opinions in Godly
love. It is more likely in Christian house holds as we as Christians are
not to support sin. Yes some people on this forum have shown hate for
homosexuals; it doesn't mean it's a uniform Christian belief. I've seen
more non-Christian "Homophobics" than Christian." *** Post of the Month for August 2002 *** [Replying to thread started by another Christian; the topic title was provocative, but what was said was that the Bible should be respected but taken with a grain of salt because it was written for the ancients] "too long, didnt read, but i completely disagree with your thread title and it doesnt matter what you wrote, because you can never prove that your right. so shut up and stop trying to destroy the faith of the people that truly believe in the bible. your really stupid if you tink you can convince people that the bible is wrong, because its not wrong, its right because i believe its right."- Treylis, PayableOnDeath BBS "Here are my theory's on
Homosexuality. "Bisexual's are the saddest of all.
At least Choose one. Lets not forget what happened to SWEDEN for being
neutral." [Presumptously commenting on bisexual
lifestyle] "i'm sure you'll think this
ignorant, but if you could swing either way, why not dump the homosexual
relationship and persue the heterosexual relationship that you wish you
could have? as far as attractions, we all got them and if you want to
fulfill your obligation to monogamy, you just don't act on them." "Oh, hey all you evolutionists that
think you have proof that your faith is the correct one, you should
contact Dr. Kent Hovind at www.drdino.com because he'll pay you $250,000
if you can give him just one shred of truth about your religion of
evolution. Go for it ... since you surely sound convinced. Oh by the way,
since there is not one shred of evidence proving evolution, that would
make it a faith or a religion (since that is what you call Creationism).
Therefore, it should not be taught in public schools because after all,
doesn't that violate church-and-state rules we've fabricated into the
Constitution of the United States? "Let's talk darwinism 101. All that
crap you just articulated has nothing to do with basic evolution of the
species. Do you even have a degree? "And just think of all the people
killed and deceived at Satan’s hands. The top 5 killers of all time were
either Satanist or Atheists. Does Hitler or Stalin ring a bell? Why don't
you consider that? You are a fool Trickster you have believed the great
deceiver!" "Ooh! "Since when are diests not a subset
of Christians? I consider myself both a Christian and a Diest, though I
have a fairly unique set of beliefs. I don't see why the belief that God
designed the world for us to try to understand excludes the belief in
Jesus as savior." "Starting August 1st I got a
promotion! Right before that we were looking into buying a brand new car,
so the timing was perfect. Isn't God good?! Yes!" "masturbation IS rape! In your head
or whatever the sick fuck uses to get off, it's mental rape. and it's
totally demon-induced." "Masturbation is the begining of
other problems, take for example ted bundy, he confessed to begining with
masturbation and it turned into going to prostitutes and then raping and
killing young girls and doing ungodly things to there bodys after he
killed them, this is not something that is natural, no matter how much
some of you talk about how much you enjoy it it is not worth the
consequences, it really isnt. I was addicted to it for 7 years, and
through Christ I was set free from it, there is hope it is not something
that cannot be defeated, I know how hopless some feel to that you cannot
get out of it, the sex drive is second to food, so it is not easy and it
cannot be done on your own but through Christ it is possible, I am a
perfect example of it." [More on masturbation]
"THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE THIS WOMAN HAVE SEX WITH
THEM. IF THEY HAD THIS SAME POWER IN REAL LIFE WOULD THEY GO THROUGH WITH
IT? DO YOU NOT GET IT?! THAT WOULD BE RAPE.." [Even more!]
"WELL IT IS, IT'S MENTAL RAPE. A PERSON HAVING SEX WITH SOMEONE WHO
DOESN'T HAVE THE CONSENT OF THAT PERSON SOUNDS LIKE RAPE TO ME." [Everyone knows that personal
experience wins the argument once and for all]
"Trying to make it less of a sin, huh my friend? I know a rape
victim, and we also knew the rapist. Apparently he felt it wasn't enough
out of her just to see her. A fucking kid's life ruined because some horny
fuck needed "more of a response" from his subject." "Jesus came as a male, because
otherwise he would not have been accepted and would not have been able to
liberate the women as he did." [Arguing that God is definitely male
and women are subservient] "If Jesus is
God, then Jesus always has been, and is also the Spirit. (stay with me
here) Jesus created man in his image. Woman was taken out of man's side
and created. Man was directly created from Jesus, while woman was created
from Adam's rib, Jesus created woman out of his already existing creation.
He created both in his image: (woman) was created with God off of (man)
who was created by God who is Jesus. "Ok heres the truth. Evolution is
false, and Creation is true. You ask how's that. Well First off Im a
Chistian and I know that God Created the Universe, and second how can
something so Beautiful just appear like that? Its impossible. I mean
Baseball or Basketball or cars just didnt appear just like that they have
to be thought about and then they have to be created. So thats my
explanation." [Proof that some people simply
shouldn't be armchair linguists] "The
word 'god' means 'good'. [Defending God-endorsed murder, rape
and genocide in the Old Testament] "You
completely miss the overall plan of God and you still won't 'get
it.'" [On the tower of Babel]
"Plus there is this lil dude named Satan? yeah. As long as the people
did not beleive in God, there are then capabilities that Satan could give
them... ungodly wisdom maybe??? Wow, look at our world today!! We know
millions of languages." "Ungodly wisdom is wisdom that does
not involve God. ":::sigh:: no one can prove
evolution either, or anything else... 'cause we can't go back in time and
observe the beginning or re-create it or whatever else. but if you look
around at the intricacies of everything i think that you'll realize that
it didn't happen by chance, and in fact there is historical proof, aka the
Bible, that all that did occur. go ahead and set out in the world to
disprove it 'cause you can't..." "The continued existence of the Jews
proves there is a God. (Think about what this means for a moment). [On atheists who were formerly
believers] "They were never geniune
Christians in the first place. If they were, they would have remained with
Jesus, but they left as apostates." [After being asked whether he
seriously believes it was fair of God to have bears maul 42 youths for
calling Elisha a bald guy] "Absolutely. A
prophet, by definition, is the mouthpiece of God used by Him to declare
the judgment that will come upon certain nations or areas (foretelling and
forthtelling). The youths were aware of this. Why the strict judgment?
They were openly mocking who they knew to be the prophet of the nations,
and they were unknowingly mocking God Himself by doing so. These youths
came from the city - that implies knowledge of who Elisha claimed to be.
They were sarcastically taunting and insulting the Lord's prophet by
telling him to repeat Elijah's translation ("go up"). Mocking
one who has a mission to proclaim God's judgment is not a smart idea.
Thus, the youths were judged." "Ask your doctor. I ask GOD to take
away my headaches and they're gone. A headache is from your white blood
cells swelling up. Stress, nerves!" "Unfortunately, some don't see the
shame is such a lifestyle and that is why they promote it and endorse it
in everyway to the youth of America. They are cleverly trying to utilize
the influence of the public educational system to promote their agenda.
You say the "gay lifestyle" is NOT a belief system, then please
explain to me why there are Gay Churches???? Sounds like a belief system
to me my good friend. " "The problem in these
"developing countries" is that you got people screwing
everything that moves. Look at Africa rite now, the reason that you're
having that huge AIDS epidemic over there is cause nobody's limiting
themselves to just their spouse(s). No amount of condomns is gonna solve
the problems being caused there, just abstinence. OOOOHHHHH I just said a
bad word there. I'll say it again. Abstinence. Is it too much to ask
people to control themselves until they get married?" "My thoughts are that I don't hate
anyone. Your beliefs are your GOD given free will. Christian wicca??? If
has anything to do with wicca,m than according to my Christian faith it's
a cult!" "But Kuuenbu, "Creation"
is held by its adherants to be as much of a "theory" as is
"Evolution" by its adherants. Both are actually religious
doctrines (of Christianity and Humanism, respectively) and
"origin-myths" (to swipe a phrase from anthropology), it's just
that most (though not all) Humanists are willing to admit it." [Responding to 'Any people here that
aren't pagan, christian, or atheist?']
"Gotta re-configure this one for us Christians! "I have no problem with the word
"prove", but you evos do have problems with the word
"proof"---i.e. you can't provide any. Anybody can provide
"evidence", but evidence can be interpreted in different ways,
even Darwin admitted that. [After deciding to stop arguing that
evolution shouldn't be taught because it's a 'religion']
"Ok, fine, anything which cannot be proven [shouldn't be taught],
there satisfied. Good. Don't teach it or teach em all." [Right after quoting a biologist who
wrote 'When scientists speak of evolution as a theory they do not mean
that it is a mere speculation. It is a theory in the same sense as the
proposition that the Earth is round rather than flat is a theory'] [On the rapture being a totally
ridiculous, implausible idea] "'True
until disproved' [On relationships]
"Jesus said that we must be willing to hate our brothers and sisters
to pick up the cross and follow HIM. If GOD wants you two together, you'll
be together. If not, let go, focus on GOD. HE will deliver to you what is
to be! *** Post of the Week for August 18-24, 2002 *** "Homosexuality is a "belief
system" in my opinion, which adheres to certain beliefs which are
contrary to Christian beliefs." [Replying to 'does your 12-year old
think the stork delivered him?' on a topic where he asks how to explain
sex to the kid] "and he just answered to
the second question "yes"." [When asked why, if sorcerers exist,
we don't see any one of them displaying fantastic powers]
"they dont run around shooting lightning bolts or flying on
broomsticks, or battling for the quidditch cup [Apparently defending the notion that
HIV doesn't cause AIDS] "Simply enough, I
know the BIBLE speaks of JESUS casting out the demons in people who
appeared to have tourettes and other sorts. I'm pretty sure the same goes
as diseases." [After being asked whether he's in
effect saying that sick people should be exorcised instead of being
treated by doctors] "I can't remember the
exact verses. But the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are are full
of them. So yes that is what I'm saying. [On the idea that HIV doesn't cause
AIDS] "That is way out there. The HIV
virus develops into AIDS. AIDS can be a consequence of your sin, a divine
punishment. But the virus is involved. God uses the virus." [After being asked to explain what sin
was commited by babies and blood transfusion recipients to warrant AIDS]
"I said it can be, not always. In the case of sexual immorality, it
is. Not in the case of the baby. And not in the case of most transfusions,
either, unless they had done something horrible and hadn't repented." [After being asked if he really
believes diseases are caused by demons, and why Christians can get them
along with everyone else if that's the case]
"Crashdog: [After being asked to answer some
questions to clarify his position on medicine]
"Ok Crash I'll answer your questions. However I'll answer them
according to my faith. "God does not cause sickness and
disease. When you sin (Christian or not), you move out of the covering of
God and are susceptible. [Replying to accusations of
doublethink] "I don't care what Orwell
has to say or anyone else for that matter. What GOD has said is all that
matters." "I've got jury duty this week. I was
able to postpone it from spring break until now. So could you guys pray
for me to either not get selected (since fall semester is starting real
soon) or if I do to makie the judgement God would have me make and somehow
handle the load of that, work, and school. Thank you." [On what they'll be doing in heaven
once they get there] "To answer the point
of this thread... [On why he believes pagans object to
Christianity] "It reduces your social
life to zilch. He/She's merely providing an excuse so they can do bad
stuff and think they get away wif it. " [In response to allegations of people
altering the Bible] "Theres no doubt in
my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not
want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then
why can't some monk be struck dead?" "My reasons for doubting are simple,
yet incredibly hard to explain. Let me say this: look at modern dogs. They
vary so much in size, shape, and other characteristics, yet they are all
dogs and are produced not by Evolution (chance mutations with survival of
the fittest) but by their built-in ability to reproduce. Yet, if you were
to give me a plethora of modern dog bones (died within the last few
years), I could eventually assemble them in such a way as to make one set
of bones appear to be an evolved version of another set. And I could easy
do such a thing by insinuating (and assuming) that any "gaps" in
my little "evolutionary record" are simply fossils that haven't
been found yet, or have been destroyed by whatever means." "Thanks for having a site like this!
It bothers me so much when people still believe all the lies Darwin made
up 100 years ago. He was a product of Satan and his only goal was to
distort the truth and confuse believers." [On the individual books comprising
the Bible being written by different authors over the span of many years]
"Just because it says that each book was written by a different
person doesn't mean that it was. "One more thing: Evolutionists; Do
you really believe Humans evolved from one celled or multi celled
organisms, then to amphibians, then to birds, alligators, then monkeys
etc? *** Post of the Week for August 11-27, 2002 *** "Did you know that all bulls are
males? How can these bulls mate to have more bulls? It's your funeral
evolutionists. Admit evolution is a pathetic fantasy created by scientists
because they can't accept God." [After being told 'they mate with
cows, you idiot'] "Then, why don't the
bulls that are born have some bull like features and cow spots? If a bull
mates with a cow, wouldn't you get a female eventually? Evolution is dead
water." "The Argument from design. "Penis and vagina as proof of God? I know it seems vague but think about it.
The penis can pee and have semen come out of it. Only a good designer can
make it this way. Did it just "evolve" this way? How is that
even possible? It is complex. The way babies are made is truly beautiful.
Do you think there is no God after watching a baby grow and develop in the
womb? How can it just evolve like that?" [On genetic research leading to
increased life spans] "A much simpler
method for attaining immortality would be to accept God's gift of eternal
life, hmmn?" "I have converted 7 MILITANT
ATHEISTS to YEC. You might find it hard to believe, but, which atheist
wouldn't? Before we engage in discussion about YEC vs. evolution, take a
look at these 2 sites and try to read with an open mind. "Those crazy "scientists"
have never produced a human from a bunch of monkeys! Not one different
type of cell in MILLIONS of generations of E.coli, nope, they are all
still E.coli. Why can't they make dragonflies from fruitflies? If I can't
believe in God because I havn't touched Him (well, I have,
"spiritually") or havn't seen Him (well I have,
"spiritually") then why should I believe in evolution because
"smart" people tell me to? I havn't touched or seen a
"macro-evolved creature". Have you? "Do you believe in things that are
not proven? Or do you need proof first? For example, I had pizza for
dinner. Do you believe me or do you need proof? If you believe me without
proof, why can't you believe in God with no proof?" "You need to go back and read the
posts. The question is NOT vague at all. If you exist, were you created?
It cannot be any simpler or clearer. If you are created (by means of sperm
& egg) then, there must have been a creator. Going back through a long
line of making out, the must have been the "original" egg and
sperm. That must have self-created (logically impossible) or been
created (by God). It is EXACTLY like pregnancy. [After being asked to show evidence
for God's existence] "theres no way to
prove it without seeing him but about 30 years ago science heard a
radioactive "boom" lost in space. it has been guessed to hav
been the boom from the earths creation. scientists hav also discovered a
great square mass of matter out in space believed to be heaven." [After being mocked for
misrepresenting Newton's laws] "i dont
know if u have ever took science class. i think it was newton who
discovered it. one of the things he said in the law is "what comes up
must come down." [On being asked why Christianity
should be taken more seriously than any other religion]
"cause of all the proof available. its historically acurate.
non-christian manuscripts describe things in it like the flood and jonah
and the whale which people wouldnt regularly believe in. one dude wrote
that the skys did turn black early and the was an earthquake and people
did rise from the dead when Jesus was crucified. And he wasnt a Christian
until he saw it all." "i didnt get the "boom"
and the great mass of matter info off a website. i got it from a
professional apolitic professor. He has been studying this for more than
thirty years. I dont know where he got this information but i will try to
get a website for you. That is your opinion. that is the evolutionists
opinion. for evolutionists, the earth took 2.8 billion years to form. It
used to be much more. now evolutionists are thinking the earth has only
been around for a few thousand years which is more accurate. and dont tell
me this is lying crap i got off the net. i heard it on the news." [After being asked to explain why
chickens have genes coding for teeth if evolution is incorrect]
"u give a good argument. in revelation it says that the birds and
vultures will eat the many dead. There are some species of birds that do
have teeth. The "tooth" gene may have just been a gene that was
given to all birds just like the beak or flaps [so they could eat
people??]. i will do more research on this and get back on it." [After each one of his previous
hilarious, incredibly stupid claims was painfully refuted]
"some of ur stuff was correct...but a bunch of it was crap. let me
take another look at it and ill let u know whats wrong" [Attacking Norse mythology and saying
it's unbelievable and unsubstantiated]
"Oh ok, but the bible records the conception of humanity. [Arguing against genetic algorithms and evolution]
"Think about it for a minute: Software does not exist on the
computer, but rather in the minds of software engineers. " "And why do some many non-Christians
get married? I mean, marriage is an institution created by God. It shows
up in the bible initially. There is no other evidence that it came from
somehwhere else." "There are many atheists who claim to be such because
there is "absolutely no proof whatsoever" that supports the
existence of God. Yet, many of these same people will tell you that they
firmly believe that there is intellegent life elsewhere in the universe,
even though there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that would support
such a claim." [After being called on out-of-context quotes and asked
to present actual evidence against evolution or refute the evidence for
evolution] "I will use quotes from expert authority any time I
wish. My quotes are far more accurate and revealing than anything you have
posted. You're the one who desperately needs to raise your level on
several counts, not just debate." "I read a book recently called the Isbane Conspiracy, it was a
great book and i made me open my eyes. Book and movies and even tv shows
marketed toward young people are basically of the devil. Harry Potter give
a child the idea that witchcraft is fun and not harmful. When in real life
it is very real and not of God. Why would a believer think it is ok for
anyone to read or watch something that outright goes against the teaching
of His Word!!! [on Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings] "My kids don't read
ANY of those authors. They read the Bible. They read childrens Bible
stories. They read books by Christian authors. Fantasy books like that, DO
NOT, enrich the mind. FACTS enrich the mind. My children LOVE History,
Science, and Literature. They have NEVER read ANY of those books. We do
not have cable. They do not watch fantasy movies. *** Post of the Week for August 4-10, 2002 *** [On killing people who worship idols] "Please rule it out
with scripture. The NT instructs us not to murder. Murder is unlawful
killing. But if we were to kill idolaters wouldn't that be justified in
Gods eyes? " "Christians have simply perceived God. We have witnessed His moving in the lives of others, and have intuited His presence and guidance in our own lives. This is the most important aspect of our faith; this is what makes our
faith personal and experienced. There are other, less important
contributions to Christian faith, such as historical, scientific, and
philosophical evidence and the profound overall coherence of Christianity
as a worldview, but these are negligible when compared to the Christian
experience." "One of the chief reasons for getting married is to raise children
in the faith and fear of God. If a couple knows that they are barren, and
they have no intention to adopt, etc... to have a child, then I wouldn't
officiate at their wedding. The issue is the openness to life." "The ONLY circumstance that I can see any form of contraception as
being OK in is an instance where the contraceptive is not being used as a
contraceptive. For instance, the Pill is often perscribed to women with
Endometriosis. I would prefer that doctors embrace other means of caring
for women in this situation, and if they do not seek other means, but
simply perscribe the Pill out of personal convienece, I would find another
doctor. "I'm almost 17 (not quite as long, but it's still a while), and
I've never been on a date or kissed a girl. It's not that I couldn't get a
girlfriend or anything like that, I've just chosen to concentrate on other
things. Not having a girlfriend gives me the opportunity to spend more
time with God and become closer to Him." "The Atheist peoples are scared of change. "God is real, and therefore of course is "real by
default". There are any number of perfectly good reasons why you
yourself don't believe in God, all of them coincide nicely with what the
Bible says about people who refuse the knowledge of the truth. "Yeah I like this side of the fence. We can be weak and not have
the ability to resist our fleshly lusts. All of this we can do without a
loving being breathing down our necks warning us of the danger we are in.
And on top of all that fun, we get to go to hell! Woooo hooooo! I just
can't wait. "So radioactive decay automatically makes the universe 4.3 billion
years old (or whatever the current running number is)? However when a more
relevant and fully substantiated source, such as the Bible, says
otherwise... one is compelled to wonder." "Muslim = BAD. It doesn't matter if they're extremists or normal
they're still MUSLIMS. Muslims are responsible for a huge amount of crime
throughout the world. There is an overwhelming amount of world crime
caused by Muslims doing what they consider 'normal'. That includes
Christian bashing, rape of white women and murder. Islam when practiced
according to its faith is not the problem. It's the false Muslims who
shape it. Islam is out of control and must be taken care of. God bless
America." "The question is why would we try to protect life. Life makes
absolutely no sense, if there is no God. We would all be cosmic accidents
floating through time and space. It would not matter at all if I killed
someone or not and I would not feel guilty about it. I may not kill
someone as a result of rational thinking about the consequences, but I
would not feel guilty about it. But most people do in fact feel guilty. If
I were ever to think that there was no God, I would immediately kill
myself, but not before wiping out a few cities, raping a bunch of women
and wreaking other havoc. I mean, why shouldn't I. Because I would go to
prison? No I wouldn't. Before being arrested I would kill a few more
people and then put the gun to my head. The only reason for not doing any
of that is that it would be wrong. How do I know it's wrong? I just know.
Because God made me that way, NOT because society told me so because it
happens to be more convenient." [on alleged extraterrestrial visitation] "I believe they
are demons and angels. The bible describes the angels as riding 'chariots
of fire.'" "hey, i just thought i would tell you that using an [magic]
8 ball is sorcery...it opens up the door for satan to attack you. just
letting you know. i would ask forgiveness and get rid of it i were
you." "some more signs of end of times "According to my belief this world is secular. Also 2000 years ago
it was said that the world would persecute us Christians. "I'm the one who's willing to change my view. Creationists see the
facts as they are. We don't dogmatically think every organism descend from
the same ancestor. We do research about it. You just assume all organisms
have a common descent. You adapt your view of the age of the earth so that
evolution might be possible. I and many creationists adapt the age of the
earth by researches." "I personally think there are no women presidents and hold little
political power becuase most have moodswings,periods,etc." "And, if the scriptures are false, then who wrote them? "And just to refresh everyones memory, I don't care if this pisses
you off, Christianity is not religion. [Arguing against Christianity being called a religion because it's
"God reaching out to man, not man reaching out to God", despite
the dictionary definition of 'religion'] "Besides if you would
have read my post completely instead of looking for a petty argument you
would have read that 2000 years ago there were no dictionaries. So what
makes you think that a book that contains all meanings and explainations
of the english language is correct? Expecially since it was written like
no more than 200 years ago!" "Bah! Humanism is a crock anyway! Humanists are just people
wanting to feel special by distancing themselves from traditional
religions and subdividing and subcatergoring what they are. Its like those
try-hard musicians who make really crap music, yet seek to be cool by
labelling themselves outside of a typical genre... "We are
progressive heavy grindcore power gothic industrial punk!" In a word:
Pathetic. " "Friends, Atheists, Countrymen: Lend me your ears. [on the ambiguous, poetic nature of Biblical prophecies]
"It doesn't have to be literal, it just has to be true. Prophecies
sometimes aren't literal, but they're still true." [On the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals Pledge of Allegiance ruling]
"Ok, look, what's going to happen now as a result of this superior
court's decision? Eh? Our courts are now going to be flooded with an
influx of new lawsuits by wannabe-atheists, or real atheists who just want
to get some money. These guys just want attention. What's next? Banning
Catholic private schools? " "Harry Potter is demonic.
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